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Cancel culture IRL

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Manger Douse said:
But I didn't advise you to write to the director - I just agreed with you that since Reddit is a private company they're free to hire sex cases to moderate the children's subs. I honestly don't see what your problem with me is
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You see, there you go again. You are implying that this was done knowingly.

You're also arguing the fallacy of false equivalence. Unknowingly hiring a sex case as a moderator is not the equivalent of deciding that you don't want disinformation on your platform!
 
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smartcooky said:
You see, there you go again. You are implying that this was done knowingly.
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I've done no such thing, all I've done is agree with you that Reddit are free to hire sex cases to moderate children's subs if they wish as they are a private company
 
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Mumbles said:
At this point, "cancel culture" is basically a right-wing sneer term - it means next to nothing, but shows your affiliation with the modern US right wing movement. If you aren't with that group, but you use it, then don't be shocked when people confuse you for being exactly like them. Basically, stop walking like a duck, if you catch my drift.
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Indeed, and the right accusing the left of cancel culture when a leftie decides to boycott some person or business for their vile views and actions is certainly a bit rich coming from them,.... especially light of this...

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...oycott-of-companies-protesting-georgia-voting

Trump has called for a boycott of...

Major League Baseball
Coca-Cola
Delta Airlines
JPMorgan Chase
ViacomCBS
Citigroup
Cisco
UPS
Merck

All companies that have publicly condemned Georgia law SB 202 and other voting legislation proposed in states throughout the U.S.

Cancel Culture much?

Idiots like Mike Lindell are screaming from the rooftops that people are "out to get him" and to "cancel him", he claims they are boycotting his company because of his political affiliations. This simply isn't true. There are hundreds of businesses with Republican affiliations who are NOT being boycotted.. Home Depot for example, a major donor to the GOP.

The reason Lindell's My Pillow is being dropped by stockists is because Lindell called for martial law when Trump lost, and spread damaging lies and misinformation about the election. This includes accusing other business of breaking the law and rigging the election. Stockists dropped him because being associated with a crazy-eyed, conspiracy theorist, liar and nutjob was impacting on their bottom line!
 
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Manger Douse said:
I've done no such thing, all I've done is agree with you that Reddit are free to hire sex cases to moderate children's subs if they wish as they are a private company
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We'll have to agree to differ...

Manger Douse said:
I've done no such thing, all I've done is agree with you that Reddit are free to hire sex cases to moderate children's subs if they wish as they are a private company
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Now you are assigning your BS position to me. I don't think that at all, its not my position, its yours

I can't be bothered wasting any further time arguing this.
 
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smartcooky said:
Yes, this is you implying that I have a complaint, otherwise, why would you advise me to write to the director!

The use of "If" doesn't change the fact that you implied Reddit knowingly allowed a sex case to moderate a subreddit for children.
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smartcooky said:
Indeed, and the right accusing the left of cancel culture when a leftie decides to boycott some person or business for their vile views and actions is certainly a bit rich coming from them,.... especially light of this...

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...oycott-of-companies-protesting-georgia-voting

Trump has called for a boycott of...

Major League Baseball
Coca-Cola
Delta Airlines
JPMorgan Chase
ViacomCBS
Citigroup
Cisco
UPS
Merck

All companies that have publicly condemned Georgia law SB 202 and other voting legislation proposed in states throughout the U.S.

Cancel Culture much?

Idiots like Mike Lindell are screaming from the rooftops that people are "out to get him" and to "cancel him", he claims they are boycotting his company because of his political affiliations. This simply isn't true. There are hundreds of businesses with Republican affiliations who are NOT being boycotted.. Home Depot for example, a major donor to the GOP.

The reason Lindell's My Pillow is being dropped by stockists is because Lindell called for martial law when Trump lost, and spread damaging lies and misinformation about the election. This includes accusing other business of breaking the law and rigging the election. Stockists dropped him because being associated with a crazy-eyed, conspiracy theorist, liar and nutjob was impacting on their bottom line!
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Well I think it's worse than that.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/...tatus-after-all-star-game-pulled-from-georgia

There probably should be some public outcry about trying to use the power of the government to punish the MLB for having an opinion or making a decision they don't like. I think if someone wants to complain about "cancel culture", starting with public officials using public power to damage businesses over political opinions and free speech issues is a much better place to start than going after people saying mean things on twitter and their online shopping habits.
 
Maybe I take it back SmartCookie: Reddit mod u/drewiepoodle (official mod of r/politcalhumor , r/AreTheStraightsOk r/transgender , r/asktransgender , and a bunch of other LGBT and trans subreddits, 84 subreddits moderated in total ) is apparently confident enough to brag on Reddit about giving HRT injections to a child: [IMGw=800]https://transgenderreality.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/predator1.png?w=1200[/IMGw]
 
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I don't even know what's going on but there's plenty of deranged behavior on reddit
 
smartcooky said:
You didn't "explain" anything, you misused the word.

And that's it.
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Nah mate - my dictionary quote quite literally had the term "Introducing a conditional clause" in it and my condition was Reddit **wanting or not** to have sex cases administrate the kids subs (which you are fine with anyway as Reddit is a private company so I don't see why your are complaining)
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Trump has called for boycotts of MLB, Coke, and Delta Airlines.

Cue onslaught of cognitive dissonance from those oh-so-worried about this cancel culture plague in 3...2...1...
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I suppose if someone spent an awful lot of time watching Fox News that someone could come to the mistaken conclusion that this is cancel culture.

Cancel culture is something that's performed on people, not companies.
 
Stout said:
I suppose if someone spent an awful lot of time watching Fox News that someone could come to the mistaken conclusion that this is cancel culture.

Cancel culture is something that's performed on people, not companies.
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Did you complain about Mike Lindell whining that his company was being cancelled, then?

Or do you only object when it's GOP apologetics?
 
Stout said:
Cancel culture is something that's performed on people, not companies.
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Bzzzzt! Wrong!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kianba...-attention-to-cancel-culture/?sh=3879a2f0645e
"Over the past few years, “cancel culture” has entered the mainstream lexicon, thanks to social media. Fast forward 2020, the term has become central to public debate across politics, culture and media. In short, cancel culture refers to the practice of withdrawing support for a person or company — often on social media — based on their views or actions."​

https://rubymediagroup.com/cancel-culture-brand-management/
WHAT IS CANCEL CULTURE?

Cancel culture is the act of canceling a brand, public figure, or company that you disagree with. When a brand is canceled, support is withdrawn and consumers spend their money with competitors if the brand or company has said something offensive. The brand is canceled through online shaming on social media platforms.​



https://sustainablebrands.com/read/...is-immune-to-cancel-culture-but-purpose-helps
Over the past few years, the concept of “cancel culture” — when one misstep or wrong word from a person, a celebrity or brand can ignite a social media firestorm that can quickly sour public opinion about that person or entity — has grown like digital wildfire. Even beloved and legacy brands can be just one public scandal away from death by social media firing squad.​

https://www.researchworld.com/the-effect-of-cancel-culture-on-brands/
So, what exactly is cancel culture?

Cancelling involves rejecting or cancelling a person/brand/entity either on social media or in the real world. Twitter, especially, is infamous for cancel culture. Hashtags such as #CancelX and, #Xthepartyisover are common.​
 
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Not that I trust Forbes, or Ruby Media Group, whatever that is.

But the way I see it, targeting a company is a good old fashioned boycott.

Cancel culture seems to be more about demanding that companies boycott employees who have become "problematic" to vocal factions on social media. And pushing social media platforms to silence "problematic" voices. It's less about voting with your wallet, and using your free speech on an open forum to do urge others to do the same. It's more about closing ostensibly open forums to speech you wish to suppress.

We need to come to some kind of decision about social media companies. Either they're private publishers, liable for every word that gets published on their medium. Or they're open platforms, and should have nothing to say about the speech they enable.

Right now they're having it both ways. Which means Mark Zuckerberg gets to decide what public discourse will about, and who gets to participate.

Everybody bunches their panties about the president's bully pulpit. But Mark has collectivized the bully pulpe. I predict it will end as badly as when the Marxist-Leninists collectivized the means of production.
 
smartcooky said:
Trump has called for a boycott of...

Major League Baseball
Coca-Cola
Delta Airlines
JPMorgan Chase
ViacomCBS
Citigroup
Cisco
UPS
Merck
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The guy who also called for a boycott of the NFL, and then hosted a Super Bowl party (though he stood solemnly still during the national anthem; it's not like he turned into a six-year-old pretending to play maestro to the band). I'm certain he'll stop drinking Diet Coke full-stop.

Anyway, this is a case of cancel culture I can support (the activists/decent people who support voting rights, not the forces of evil vying to secure non-democratic hegemony). The right to vote is not metaphysically complicated (like gender dysphoria). The players involve Fortune 500 companies run by generally privileged, generally high-IQ people. The response here is reasonable rather than disproportionate.

While it might not seem "fair" to go after these companies, it's also not fair that these corporations play an outsized role in political discourse. If legislators will not respond to citizens, then citizens pressuring elites to affect legislators is reasonable and justified. Companies that cannot tell if they'll lose more money by alienating progressives or conservatives can take solace in doing the right thing.
 
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