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Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crud.

90% of the programmes on TV aren't worth watching, 90% of the books in the library aren't worth reading, 90% of the websites on the Internet aren't worth looking at ...

The key is to identify the 10% that's worth your time. Getting rid of your TV is like refusing to join the library. You remove the temptation to watch/read the 90% that's crud, but you also remove the opportunity to use the 10% to educate yourself.
 
Caroline13 said:
Here's some Happy Message FEARFUL Gloom and Doom News from our great friends the CDC...the first thing that came to my mind is that many more will be coming down with new virus strains, etc..from the millions who were vaccinated with Mrna drugs. The CDC is getting all the reports now of all the side effects....Think People.

https://www.aol.com/news/cdc-directo...155036670.html
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As usual Caroline, the link you posted in this post does not reflect the narrative of the post. The highlighted are the reasons for the spike, not the fact that people have been vaccinated.

"Officials cited states opening up their economies and loosening COVID restrictions prematurely, along with an increase in travel, as reasons for the uptick.

Walensky said the trajectory of the pandemic in the United States looked similar to countries in Europe, such as Germany, Italy and France, which have experienced a spike in cases."​

While it is true that you can contract Covid19 if you have been vaccinated....

a. it is very unlikely to happen, and
b. the pathology is such that the symptoms are mild, and you are far less likely to be seriously ill than if you were not vaccinated.

Vaccination is not a magic bullet, its not a perfect science (that's what the "95% effective" claims usually mean). Most vaccines do not actually 100% prevent you from catching the disease - what they do is prevent you from becoming very ill from it. Being vaccinated is a far safer course of action than not being vaccinated.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...h-covid-after-the-vaccine-yes-but-don-t-panic

The problem with even vaccinated people not wearing masks is that those 5% who are not fully protected can become infected, and have symptoms so mild that they don't even realize they have it. They will still be contagious however, and can spread it to other unvaccinated people.
 
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Caroline13 said:
Obviously if it were up to all of you here, EVERYONE would be poisoned with this Mrna Stuff. But oh they need to get shot up with lunar dust to counteract all the Mrna damage, huh????
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There's the thing, it is up to everyone. It's not up to you. You have no say in anyone else's medical choices, so ideally you should stop telling everyone else what to do. You do not occupy the moral high ground here. Irrespective of whether or not your fantasy world bears any resemblance to reality, it's none of your damned business if us normal folk choose the option we think makes more sense than the ravings of woo-peddlars.
 
Caroline13 said:
Of course, she'll die of something, we all will...but she is pretty healthy for 93 Immune System wise, and went and let them jab her with the toxic Mrna cwap...That's how the media works on the innocent and those who believe Fauci. :mad::mad:

And she's glued to her tv after 6PM daily...I can only imagine the B.S. coming from that tube.
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So the question remains. If her injection of the "toxic Mrna cwap" does NOT mess up her immune system, will you be honest enough to admit it, or will you make up something?

You've said her taking the vaccine is not just unnecessary or risky, but toxic and likely to result in negative consequences. So be honest: BEFORE you have a chance to reset in response to reality, what consequences do you foresee now, how soon do you expect them to appear, and how impartially will you report them? What is a reasonable time line for these consequences to appear before you consider the result conclusive one way or another?
 
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Caroline13 said:
Here's some Happy Message FEARFUL Gloom and Doom News from our great friends the CDC...the first thing that came to my mind is that many more will be coming down with new virus strains, etc..from the millions who were vaccinated with Mrna drugs. The CDC is getting all the reports now of all the side effects....Think People.

https://www.aol.com/news/cdc-directo...155036670.html
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Now there's a sparkling moment of clarity. If saying stupid things is against the rules, then you should be reported. You are a hazard to public health.

The only question is if you're simply a clueless alt-reality sheep or intentionally spreading disinformation. Your anecdotes are silly, your cites are ridiculous, and your conclusions are wrong.
 
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Caroline13 said:
Here's some Happy Message FEARFUL Gloom and Doom News from our great friends the CDC...the first thing that came to my mind is that many more will be coming down with new virus strains, etc..from the millions who were vaccinated with Mrna drugs.
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It's the way this stuff is not just wrong but the exact opposite of the truth that gets me. It's idiots refusing to be vaccinated, and the consequent needless cases in which mutations can occur, which will cause new strains of the virus to emerge.
 
Caroline13 said:
Obviously if it were up to all of you here, EVERYONE would be poisoned with this Mrna Stuff. But oh they need to get shot up with lunar dust to counteract all the Mrna damage, huh????
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As an NHS worker I've received both doses of the "Mrna stuff", as have hundreds of my colleagues in the NHS Trust I work at. There have been no deaths, tinnitus, no poisonings. Why do you think that is?
 
Caroline13 said:
Here's some Happy Message FEARFUL Gloom and Doom News from our great friends the CDC...the first thing that came to my mind is that many more will be coming down with new virus strains, etc..from the millions who were vaccinated with Mrna drugs.
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Yup. Because knee-jerk reactions from a basis of complete ignorance are absolutely to be trusted. :rolleyes:

Caroline13 said:
The CDC is getting all the reports now of all the side effects....
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How many, as a percentage of those vaccinated, have had noteworthy side-effects?
Of those, how many were serious?
How many were fatal?
How many are long-term?
Oh, that's right- you haven't a clue. No idea at all. Neither do you care.

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Think People.
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We are. How about you? Not so much, methinks.

Caroline13 said:
https://www.aol.com/news/cdc-directo...155036670.html
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When I click this, I just get AOL's homepage. What is this supposed to prove?

Now, about those deaths you are predicting:
When do you predict this will happen?
How can mRNA produce new strains of a virus?
What is toxic about mRNA?
What evidence do you have for any of these claims and predictions?
If none of this actually happens, will you admit you were wrong?
 
Caroline13 said:
...the first thing that came to my mind is that many more will be coming down with new virus strains, etc..from the millions who were vaccinated with Mrna drugs.
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How would that even work? Vaccines don't kill the virus - they aren't like antibiotics. Vaccines teach your immune system to make antibodies against the virus by exposing it to a non-infectious version. Then your newly adapted immune system kills any virus subsequently encountered all by itself.
 
Foster Zygote said:
How would that even work? Vaccines don't kill the virus - they aren't like antibiotics. Vaccines teach your immune system to make antibodies against the virus by exposing it to a non-infectious version. Then your newly adapted immune system kills any virus subsequently encountered all by itself.
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Well, that would be, on evidence previously presented, because Caroline thinks mRNA is a preservative and so it preserves all those viruses and then they are shed (or something. Anti-vaxxers always seem to like shedding) and Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates catch them all and spread them to other people via face masks and pollute all your precious bodily fluids and turn you into a sheep, who then catches seasonal flu...

That is how it works isn't it?
 
Caroline13 said:
Obviously if it were up to all of you here, EVERYONE would be poisoned with this Mrna Stuff. But oh they need to get shot up with lunar dust to counteract all the Mrna damage, huh????
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But you only think that because you don't understand very basic concepts. You still tell us about your silly little anecdotes you find and think they matter. If you'd actually seen the data you might know why it's not poison. Or, you don't care and just want to keep lying to people.
 
I know if I was fatcat CEO of a pharmaceutical company, and I was gonna create a poison for people, I'd make sure that it was known globally by my company's name. "The Pfizer Vaccine", "The Johnson and Johnson Vaccine", "the Moderna Vaccine."

This is a sound principle, and very smart business acumen. :rolleyes:
 
Cosmic Yak said:
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The CDC is getting all the reports now of all the side effects....
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How many, as a percentage of those vaccinated, have had noteworthy side-effects? Of those, how many were serious? How many were fatal? How many are long-term? Oh, that's right- you haven't a clue. No idea at all. Neither do you care.
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These are all good questions; I asked Caroline essentially the same thing a week ago, and got no response.

You'll notice two things if you follow that link- first, that the friend she had make the calculation derived the percentage of Covid deaths from the total world population, not as a percentage of those who had had the disease, which would have yielded a result of at least two orders of magnitude higher. So even in downplaying 3 million deaths, she chose a framing that downplayed it even further. So...pretending that, gosh, 3 million dead ain't all that bad, stop all the fear-mongering, MSM!- and then going on about isolated cases of possible vaccine reactions as if that wasn't fear-mongering.

Second, that she had to have a friend do a simple percentage calculation like the one she was crowing over. I get the definite sense that Caroline is innumerate. Nothing really wrong with that, a lot of people just don't have a sense of (or about) numbers (hell, mine isn't anything to brag about); but then, a lot of people aren't sputtering nonsense about a topic that requires some sense of numbers, as opposed to just "omg!" anecdotes.

My prediction- Caroline will ignore, in substance if not in total, your post and the questions in it; she is just not capable of answering them in any meaningful way.
 
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sackett said:
Hey, lay off my old friend Myrna Stuff!



The poor woman's 123. She's gonna die soon.



Any day now. Keep watching. Wait for it.
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Caroline13 isn't going to die, her supplements have made her immortal. I heard she survived the 1793 Yellow Fever outbreak in Philadelphia with her libido, thyroid, hips and skin intact.
 
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