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Yes they do. Your dismissal of COVD deaths are callous and reprehensible. Especially given the fact that you dismissive attitude is a direct result of your refusal to recognize that you are completely delusional as to the facts of the pandemic. You are like a 14 year-old boy pontificating about his sexual prowess. You (and he) have no idea of what you're talking about. None.
 
Your comments have no relevance to my post....it's tragic that people die every day, 10 died in CO the other day by the gun of a sick person.

And it's NOT callous, some are just so thick and don't look at the WHOLE world and the truly percentage who died from this virus and related health issues they had. and That is a TRUTH.
You said...

Almost 3 million out of about 7.7 Billion worldwide population. Small number.
Do you now acknowledge that this statement was a mistake, and three million is not a small number of people?

Do you know that 40,000 and more die every year from the seasonal flu?
Yes. Do you know how much bigger 3 million is than 40,000?

And we can put seasonal flu deaths in the 3MILLION that died since the world has gone to covid and seasonal flu is not even mentioned. GOOD GRIEF>
Seasonal flu is mentioned all the time! Where have you been, under a rock?
 
Your comments have no relevance to my post....it's tragic that people die every day, 10 died in CO the other day by the gun of a sick person.

1. Has nothing to do with COVID-19.
2. How do you know what his motive was? The police have yet to say.


And it's NOT callous, some are just so thick and don't look at the WHOLE world and the truly percentage who died from this virus and related health issues they had. and That is a TRUTH.

Justifying selfish beliefs with over-simplified statistics is callous.

Do you know that 40,000 and more die every year from the seasonal flu?

Do you know LA County is still averaging 250 COVID-19 deaths per day. LA County has had (as of today) 22,904 casualties. LA County's COVID death rate is over 50% of the global death toll from a usual flu season.

This is from a mortician back in January:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpSgEQKVNE

She emphasizes how overwhelmed the morticians are in LA County during this pandemic.

Then she made an update video in mid-February:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEkPKVvAMrs

The death system is still maxed out in LA County. Hardly a made-up pandemic.

And we can put seasonal flu deaths in the 3MILLION that died since the world has gone to covid and seasonal flu is not even mentioned. GOOD GRIEF>

Golly, I wonder why?

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20210225/what-happened-to-flu-season

this year, the map is a calm green with hardly a blip on the public health radar. Public health labs across the U.S. reported a grand total of 3 cases of flu in the U.S. last week, out of nearly 16,000 samples tested. Clinical laboratories, which tested nearly 25,000 samples, found just 14 flu cases.

So far this season, labs reporting to the CDC had just 1,585 samples test positive for flu of any kind. Compare that to last year over the same period, when there were more than 183,000 positive samples. Those numbers are making infectious disease specialists do double takes.

“Nobody has seen a flu season this low, ever. And some of us have some gray hair,” says William Schaffner, MD, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. Vanderbilt is part of a network of hospitals that are actively looking for flu cases among their patients. They can’t find any.

So far this year, only one child has died of the flu. Last year, that number was 195.

Who knew wearing masks, washing hands, and social distancing could slow and stop the spread of a virus?...

...I mean aside from medical experts...
 
Your comments have no relevance to my post....it's tragic that people die every day, 10 died in CO the other day by the gun of a sick person.
And it's NOT callous, some are just so thick and don't look at the WHOLE world and the truly percentage who died from this virus and related health issues they had. and That is a TRUTH.

Do you know that more or less 40,000 and more die every year from the seasonal flu?

And we can put seasonal flu deaths in the 3MILLION that died since the world has gone to covid and seasonal flu is not even mentioned. GOOD GRIEF>

Not by the bizarre way you attribute mortality, unless you can prove to us that none of them had health issues, or were obese. Unless you are sure they were taking their vitamins and their grape seed, you'd be a god damned hypocrite to attribute their deaths to the final thing that happened to kill them.

I think it was Stalin who said that one death is a tragedy, but a million is just a statistic. You're in good company.
 
Your comments have no relevance to my post....it's tragic that people die every day, 10 died in CO the other day by the gun of a sick person.
So far, nobody has any clue as to the motive ove that shooter.

You think that somehow, you know because you make stuff up.

And it's NOT callous,
It is absolutely callous. You are saying "Die covid sufferer, die old people, die medically compromised people, none of you people matter. The whole notion is callous.

some are just so thick and don't look at the WHOLE world and the truly percentage who died from this virus and related health issues they had. and That is a TRUTH.
And 560,000 have died in American alone this year.

Do you know that more or less 40,000 and more die every year from the seasonal flu?
And ant-vaxxers like you are working really hard to make sure they will continue to do so. You want those people to die in order to validate your crackpot beliefs in a bizarre reversal.

And we can put seasonal flu deaths in the 3MILLION that died since the world has gone to covid and seasonal flu is not even mentioned. GOOD GRIEF>
Amusing. You cannot work out why there is a decrease in seasonal flu.

Start with a simple question. How do you think seasonal flu is transmitted normally.
 
On it's face, no, not credible. It's typical anti-vaxxer stuff.

Dr. Simone Gold, is their founder. If you click on the "about America's Front Line Doctors," a pop up comes up fundraising for her legal defense. If you think the legal defense is for "America's Front Line Doctors," you would be wrong. Rather, she is charged with a felony in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

But it does say that any left over funds from her defense will go to the AFLD.

It figures.
 
Comparing a transmissible disease to untransmissable ones again, I see.

Yes, more people are dying of cancer than of Covid 19. No, that doesn't mean that the measures taken to reduce the transmission of, and hence deaths from, Covid 19 are unnecessary.
 
Well buddy in the WHOLE scheme of the world it is small %

Sure! It is a small percentage of the total. And, indeed, there certainly are other, more dangerous issues like climate change that deserve more attention. With that said, 0.04% is a long, long ways away from the 0.6% that would be likely to die if everyone actually caught COVID, without factoring in overloading of health care systems and likely higher mortality rates caused by some of the variants. Going further, that 0.04% isn't even remotely indicative of the total damage being done, by a long shot, so just pulling that number out as if it were all that matters honestly shouldn't be convincing to anyone.

and this most likely includes heart issues, obesity and many of the comorbidities involved in all the data.

...Thanks for admitting that you either don't understand what you're talking about or are very happy to make deeply misleading claims. The OVERWHELMING portion of those dead people who had heart issues, obesity, and many of the other comorbidities would STILL BE ALIVE if it weren't for COVID. Period. The whole "of versus with" issue has been looked into a number of times and it has been consistently found that overwhelmingly it is "of" and usually additional steps to remove the "withs" from COVID death counts were taken.

I said I was NOT making light of it all, did you read my post or decide I didn't care about the deaths.

You are making light of it. That is pretty much the only viable conclusion on that matter that can be drawn from your posts, no matter how much you may protest otherwise. Similarly, it's your posts that rather convincingly make the case that you don't care about the deaths.


I didn't start COVID....Do you know who did and WHY???

To explain something that you likely didn't understand when you wrote this - just by saying this, you're even less likely to be treated as even remotely credible.


Oh good grief, put it ALL into prospective

The more interesting question is... why should we believe that YOU are putting anything into perspective? By the look of it, what you're doing isn't even close to putting anything into perspective, but rather just feeding your bias and stopping there without putting it into actually meaningful context, then raging against straw man arguments.

And 560,000 have died in American alone this year.

Correction, much of that death count is from last year.
 
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I saw "America's Front Line Doctors" in the url, and that was enough to very safely say that it's not going to be credible. That group has been spreading covid disinformation for pretty much the entire length of the pandemic and seems to have become popular on the right-wing in connection to reinforcing right-wing lies about COVID.
 
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I didn't start COVID....Do you know who did and WHY???

This is quite revealing.
Numerous studies on the psychology of conspiracy theorists have shown that one of their characteristics is a need for order, and a fear of change and uncertainty. This statement is a good example of that. The idea that a random mutation can occur and turn the world upside down is scary and unacceptable for people like Caroline13.
It is (in a bizarre way) comforting for these people to imagine a world in which major events are controlled, usually by some vast and shadowy organisation. This, to them, is preferable to the actual world, random, chaotic and messy as it is.
Caroline13- I doubt you'll read this article, as you seem extraordinarily resistant to learning, but it's from Goop (yes, listen to the screams from the rest of the forum!)- one of yours. If even Gwyneth Paltrow thinks you're crackers, then you really should reconsider your beliefs.
https://goop.com/wellness/environmental-health-civics/why-people-believe-in-conspiracy-theories/
 
That video is the usual crap, ******** and garbage that I expect from you. Again with the obsession with Fauci. It has been explained to you that Fauci is not the global coordinator for the pandemic response. Why do you persist in repeating this lie?

The premise of video is faulty. To paraphrase a sentence from the opening 30 sentence:

"The results of the PCR test are used to justify global lockdown"

No it is not. Epidemiology, public health etc are responsible.

"The PCR test is used to test for the covid virus"

No it is not. It used to test for the nuclear material of the virus, the presence of which in the respiratory tract is a reasonable indication of the presence of the COVID virus. Culturing the virus after a positive PCR test is the true test. This fact is made clear by the WHO and has been pointed out in this thread.
 
That video is the usual crap, ******** and garbage that I expect from you. Again with the obsession with Fauci. It has been explained to you that Fauci is not the global coordinator for the pandemic response. Why do you persist in repeating this lie?

The premise of video is faulty. To paraphrase a sentence from the opening 30 sentence:

"The results of the PCR test are used to justify global lockdown"

No it is not. Epidemiology, public health etc are responsible.

"The PCR test is used to test for the covid virus"

No it is not. It used to test for the nuclear material of the virus, the presence of which in the respiratory tract is a reasonable indication of the presence of the COVID virus. Culturing the virus after a positive PCR test is the true test. This fact is made clear by the WHO and has been pointed out in this thread.

You forget that anti-vaxxers and covid conspiracy theorists don't have any answers or evidence-based rebuttals when you confront them with facts. This is why they always fall back on their "go to" tactic.... just ignore the facts and keep repeating the lies.
 
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Well buddy in the WHOLE scheme of the world it is small % and this most likely includes heart issues, obesity and many of the comorbidities involved in all the data.

I said I was NOT making light of it all, did you read my post or decide I didn't care about the deaths. I didn't start COVID....Do you know who did and WHY???


Do you the difference between Millions and Billions????

Does it assuage your conscience to reduce people to statistics in order to dismiss their deaths? Or are you really just that callous that human lives are meaningless to you?
 
OK, this one really made me splutter my morning coffee!

It seems investigative journalist Ken Klippenstein has made a fool of a very high profile anti-vaxxer, Dr. Naomi Wolf, exposing her as a complete fool.

Klippenstein sent her a quote from a doctor Dr. John Simms... "If a vaccine is effective, then why do we need to pressure people to take it?" He sent it as a direct message, together with a photo clip of Dr Simms, and she immediately Tweets it out to her moronic supporters, complete with the photo of Dr Simms, stethoscope around his neck, and the quote below it.

[qimg]https://www.dropbox.com/s/2j0vkgb557zs2dx/naomi_wolf.png?raw=1[/qimg]

It didn't take very long for the internet realize that this was not actually Dr John Simms, but.....


Johnny Sins...

[qimg]https://www.dropbox.com/s/lxh7ufneg6zvoil/Johnny-Sins.jpg?raw=1[/qimg]

....a well known porn star!!


Of course, not only did he not say this, he's definitely not a doctor.

So Klippenstein, once again, has managed make a complete arse of a prominent person and expose her as a total moron on social media.

More importantly than this brilliant "gotcha", what he has really exposed is the abysmal level of research that these anti-vaxxers actually do. All he did get a screenshot of this adult film star, stick a quote on it, then send Wolf a flattering message and invited her to share it, and she did, without doing any fact checking! Just a few seconds with a reverse image search could have saved her the utter humiliation to being duped. Of course, the Tweet has been deleted, but not before the internet captured it for all time.

Given that she'd already doubled-down on her claim that "nanopatticles" were injected with vaccines to allow time travel - and she heard apple employees discussing this - it is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.

ETA: but as far as the digression as to how useful undirected intellect is... I have no doubt that Dr Naomi Woolf is actually highly intelligent - it's that she has a huge blind spot and a lack of knowledge in this area where she's pontificating.
 
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