Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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Monica 56 said:
Yes , I do know how to suck eggs .
Only one manufacturer ran animal trials and they have not been released . 2 and 3 conflated and unscientific for a few reasons .
No . do not know what you are referring to , rofl .

Don't be patronising , please .
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It's a bit hard not to be given the quality of your arguments.`
 
Thank you, CE.

arthwollipot said:
Ah, I see. Now I know for certain that he is a crank. I'll be sure to put him on my mental ignore list for the future.
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Yes, but: You really have to rejoice in his name.

WOLFGANG WODARG!

If you were contriving some sort of alternative-Third Reich game (your market would be middle-schoolers, I think) and you needed a villain, that's what you'd name him. Picture him: bald, thick-spectacled, wet-lipped, wearing an unclean white smock above black trousers and jackboots (the left one with a hugely built-up sole), flourishing a veterinarian's syringe in one hand and a string of wurst in the other, babbling Rassenwissenschaft in a now-hoarse, now-shrill scream -- and enjoying himself to the hilt amid his dreadful experiments on all the Slavic sub-men the Fuehrer kindly supplies him.

And you'd just better thank CE for your inspiration. I sure do.
 
A small note: "virtually single-handedly" just means "with help from only a few people." It doesn't mean the same thing as "single-handedly virtually" accomplished whatever.

To take an example from this forum, only Jabba of sainted memory could really and truly "virtually prove." He did it single-handedly and he said so.

And he wasn't even the smartest person I ever virtually met.
 
Monica 56 said:
Unapproved by the FDA .
Experimental Biological Agents for use in an extreme situation .

They produce both Neutralising and Binding ABs . The latter seem to be the later cause of animal deaths in SARS 1 testing -- ADE's lead to cytokine storms and death . No animal testing in the mRNA treatments which seem to be untested and , till proven otherwise , unsafe Gene Therapies .
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If you have a problem with emergency measures during emergency situations, I'm glad you're not in charge.

Also there's a bug in your punctuation code.
 
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Here's a piece on the Swine Flu the month before Wolfgang threw a fit:

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091207/h1n1-swine-flu-less-severe-than-feared

Dec. 7, 2009 – H1N1 swine flu won't be as severe as was feared, but the pandemic is nothing to sneeze at, new predictions suggest.

When the fall/winter wave of H1N1 swine flu is over, it will have been no more severe than an average flu season, predict Harvard researcher Marc Lipsitch, DPhil, and colleagues from the U.K. Medical Research Council and the CDC.
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Even so, the new numbers are cause for relief if not for celebration. Before the 2009 H1N1 swine flu came along, planners were preparing for a pandemic with a case/fatality ratio of 0.1% -- that is, for one death in every 1,000 symptomatic infections.

The Lipsitch team now calculates that the H1N1 swine flu has a case/fatality ratio no higher than 0.048% -- and maybe seven to nine times lower, depending on the methods used for calculation.

In the end it turned out to be pretty typical of flu seasons except that it affected younger people more and older people less than the usual flu. But there was a lot of hyperventilating earlier in 2009. Much less than the 2018 flu season which killed about 60k in the USA.
 
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marting said:
Here's a piece on the Swine Flu the month before Wolfgang threw a fit:

[ that the H1N1 swine flu has a case/fatality ratio no higher than 0.048% -- and maybe seven to nine times lower, depending on the methods used for calculation.
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I've heard of that guy: the smartest person I know has repeatedly told me that nearly exposed the swine flu hoax.
 
Monica 56 said:
100% .
Do you ?
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Ah, so you know 100% about gene therapy. That must mean that you've spent many years studying university level genetics at both the undergraduate and graduate level. Knowing 100% of the field means that you must be a globally-recognised leading expert in the field. Do you have links to any peer-reviewed academic papers you have published? If, as you claim, you know 100% of the field, you must have many.

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sackett said:
A small note: "virtually single-handedly" just means "with help from only a few people." It doesn't mean the same thing as "single-handedly virtually" accomplished whatever.
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Anyway, if he did so with help from only a few people, that's even more suspect. Science is done collaboratively. It's not uncommon for published scientific papers to have twenty or thirty co-authors. Lone wolf scientists generally don't get very far.
 
sackett said:
Yes, but: You really have to rejoice in his name.

WOLFGANG WODARG!

If you were contriving some sort of alternative-Third Reich game (your market would be middle-schoolers, I think) and you needed a villain, that's what you'd name him. Picture him: bald, thick-spectacled, wet-lipped, wearing an unclean white smock above black trousers and jackboots (the left one with a hugely built-up sole), flourishing a veterinarian's syringe in one hand and a string of wurst in the other, babbling Rassenwissenschaft in a now-hoarse, now-shrill scream -- and enjoying himself to the hilt amid his dreadful experiments on all the Slavic sub-men the Fuehrer kindly supplies him.

And you'd just better thank CE for your inspiration. I sure do.
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^ That's what Hollywood does to people's minds.
 
Mercola's take on statistics

I see that the name of Dr. Mercola has come up in this thread. I have been asked for my opinion on one of his articles. Calling the vaccines "gene therapy" is clearly wrong. Skimming his article gave me an initial impression that there is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy at work. He also wrote, "There are compelling reasons to suspect these vaccines may contribute to death further down the line, perhaps months or a few years into the future." I don't see any support for this in his article.

Does anyone know of a site which has evaluated any of his claims? Does anyone want to offer an opinion on how to respond. I am on my second round of chasing down curious health claims this week.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
I see that the name of Dr. Mercola has come up in this thread. I have been asked for my opinion on one of his articles. Calling the vaccines "gene therapy" is clearly wrong. Skimming his article gave me an initial impression that there is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy at work. He also wrote, "There are compelling reasons to suspect these vaccines may contribute to death further down the line, perhaps months or a few years into the future." I don't see any support for this in his article.

Does anyone know of a site which has evaluated any of his claims? Does anyone want to offer an opinion on how to respond. I am on my second round of chasing down curious health claims this week.
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It's complete nonsense. He obviously either doesn't understand VAERS numbers and what they mean or he does and is just cynically putting out nonsense selling his book to fools.

A bit earlier, I posted a link to the CDC site that explains VAERS. Given the demographics of the tens of millions of people recently vaccinated, the expected deaths within 2 weeks of vaccination are actually a lot larger just from being old. Nothing to do with getting vaccinated. Just another idiot.
 
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Pixel42 said:
It's bad enough when people mindlessly parrot nonsense that's easily proved wrong, but when it's the exact opposite of the truth ... what is wrong with these people?
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For the same reason they will insist the Earth is flat.

If it's the 'official' view it must be wrong and the opposite has to be true.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Not according to your hero, David Icke.
He has said- and you have espoused this- that we are all one consciousness.
If that's the case, we are all part of one single mind, and no-one is any more or less intelligent than anyone else.
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But the lizard people are not a part of that one consciousness.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
I see that the name of Dr. Mercola has come up in this thread. I have been asked for my opinion on one of his articles. Calling the vaccines "gene therapy" is clearly wrong. Skimming his article gave me an initial impression that there is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy at work. He also wrote, "There are compelling reasons to suspect these vaccines may contribute to death further down the line, perhaps months or a few years into the future." I don't see any support for this in his article.

Does anyone know of a site which has evaluated any of his claims? Does anyone want to offer an opinion on how to respond. I am on my second round of chasing down curious health claims this week.
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Orac (Respectful Insolence) and Science-Based Medicine have done numerous take downs of Mercola over the years: search on either site and fill yer boots.
 
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