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Cont: Qanon Conspiracy Theories Part Two

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Trebuchet said:
March 20, for some reason. Maybe the Julian Calendar or something.
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Oh no, it's far far crazier than that. If I recall, it has to do with a theory that the US was turned into a corporation in the 1800's or something, and the army something and fearless leader will be sworn in as the first real president since Grant or something, somehow not worrying that this means he wasn't really president last time. Or something. I probably have it wrong, or at least not wrong enough.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
If the Q folks believe that March 4 is the proper and legitimate date for a presidential inauguration, how do they feel about Donald Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017?
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I wondered if they might say that actually he was really sworn in on 4/3/17 blah blah. So I thought I would try to find out where he was. As it was a Saturday, he was at Mar-a-Lago, and it turns out that was the day he first lied about trump tower being tapped.
 
Last Night South Park gave Qanon and Covid Conspiracy kooks in general the same treatment it gave Sceintology a few years ago. it got it's mojo back at least for one episode.
 
dudalb said:
Last Night South Park gave Qanon and Covid Conspiracy kooks in general the same treatment it gave Sceintology a few years ago. it got it's mojo back at least for one episode.
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Watching it now and it's brilliant! You're right, it's epic level brilliance.
 
Very interesting (and dispiriting) article from a journalist whose mother has fallen for Q-madness.

She voted for Obama in 2008, but then:

Cracks began showing within months of Obama’s inauguration. My mom read that his healthcare plan would fund abortion procedures. It was a small slice of a broad program, but that was all it took. She felt betrayed by him and condemned the liberal media’s influence on me, the trusted voice who had led her astray.

The only mainstream media outlet that spoke to her concerns was Fox News, which supplied the evidence she used in her case to try to pull me across the aisle. She denounced policies requiring that evolution be taught in public schools and laws granting equal rights to same-sex couples. She blamed George Soros for funding the secret societies. She repeated false suspicions that Obama wasn’t Christian or born in the US and that he wanted to remove “In God We Trust” from US currency.

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Her preferred candidate in 2012 was the socially conservative Rick Santorum, which I could’ve guessed. But I was less sure where she’d land four years later as the party she pledged allegiance to spiraled toward a demagogue. Her decision had new consequences: She had just become a US citizen and could finally cast a ballot. When she revealed her choice, I was relieved that she had backed Ted Cruz and deemed Donald Trump “vulgar.” When Trump won the nomination, my mom said she was only voting for him because he would appoint Supreme Court judges who might overturn Roe v. Wade.

But when my mom picks a side, she digs in and holds the line. Within a year, bolstered by an expanding far-right media ecosystem supplying information about the secular threat, she elevated Trump from a noxious necessity to a decent man who’d made mistakes in the past but found his way, a modern-day Saul. She picked up print copies of the Epoch Times, subscribed to the Judicial Watch newsletter, and stumbled onto YouTube videos claiming to reveal mysteries about the deep state Trump was combatting.

“Trump is not a perfect man,” my mom would text me. “God chose him to serve His purpose. It took a strong character to overcome the slings & arrows of the deep state/cabal.”
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My Mom Believes In QAnon
 
Another documentary autopsy of the lamebrain cult. The corpse of QAnon has transitioned into other forms of stupidity, but this stuff is still morbidly fascinating. I'll watch it.

HBO’s QAnon Docuseries ‘Q: Into the Storm’ Believes It Has Discovered Q’s Identity [thedailybeast.com]
Shot over the past three years, Cullen Hoback’s excellent Q: Into the Storm (March 21 on HBO) is a complex story about free speech, social media, anti-establishment fury, white nationalist intolerance, crackpot fantasy, and anarchist villainy, all of which contributed to the rise of the infamous conspiracy theory, which during Donald Trump’s presidency took hold of factions of the GOP, and helped fuel the insurrectionist January 6 Capitol riots. Part on-the-ground journalistic exposé, part sociological study of corrosive internet culture, and part whodunit, the six-part affair shines a spotlight on one of the darkest corners of contemporary American life.
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I don't get QAnon. I can understand how well meaning people might come to incorrect conclusions about the world and how it is run, and buy into conspiracy theories, but QAnon is just...ridiculous.

JFK was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, and this fact has been adequately shown to be correct time and time again, but I can understand how someone who does not understand certain topics might buy the idea of a second shooter. Afterall they aren't positing that he was killed by faries, just a second human being, something that shorn of context is a reasonable supposition to investigate.

I can understand why people think that the Titanic was the Olympic. Sure, the theory doesn't make much sense but all it involves is switching ships, something which is technically possible and does not involve anything totally ridiculous or magical.

But politicians are eating children and sending them to other planets to be sex slaves/food? Really? What kind of severe break from reality do you need to have suffered to think this iseven remotely possible WITHOUT looking at the evidence? Sure, the grassy knoll and the Titanic switch fall apart once you look at the evidence, but they are at least not laughable on their face. But QAnon? It's totally bizarre. It would require a serious departure from how the world patently works to believe. I don't get it.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
You think that is a real FBI document?
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I've been trying to look into that document to see if it is actually real. According to Snopes:

"We contacted Pasco County Sheriff’s Office Detective Anthony Bassone, of the jurisdiction’s cyber crimes unit. Det. Bassone was familiar with the story, and provided a wealth of useful information.

According to Bassone, the heart symbol in question indeed bore some resemblance to imagery disseminated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Cyber Division Innocent Images National Initiative to law enforcement agencies on 31 January 2007. (We were unable to locate the document anywhere other than Wikileaks, and Bassone told us that slides from the FBI’s release later appeared on an episode of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit.) The communication tipped law enforcement in 2007 to the existence of the symbols and common applications among pedophiles"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/code-for-pedophiles-on-toys/
 
MarkCorrigan said:
I don't get QAnon. I can understand how well meaning people might come to incorrect conclusions about the world and how it is run, and buy into conspiracy theories, but QAnon is just...ridiculous.

JFK was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, and this fact has been adequately shown to be correct time and time again, but I can understand how someone who does not understand certain topics might buy the idea of a second shooter. Afterall they aren't positing that he was killed by faries, just a second human being, something that shorn of context is a reasonable supposition to investigate.

I can understand why people think that the Titanic was the Olympic. Sure, the theory doesn't make much sense but all it involves is switching ships, something which is technically possible and does not involve anything totally ridiculous or magical.

But politicians are eating children and sending them to other planets to be sex slaves/food? Really? What kind of severe break from reality do you need to have suffered to think this iseven remotely possible WITHOUT looking at the evidence? Sure, the grassy knoll and the Titanic switch fall apart once you look at the evidence, but they are at least not laughable on their face. But QAnon? It's totally bizarre. It would require a serious departure from how the world patently works to believe. I don't get it.
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I don't think believers go straight for the whole tamale. They see that Trump was not successful in his grand schemes and already have a deep distrust of big government, so they accept that career employees are thwarting his plans. They also reckon that Hillary is plumb evil and is due to pay the price and that Trump will indeed lock her up.

And then, once you start seeing political opponents and career employees as evil, you are slowly opening yourself up to the possibility they're more evil than you first thought.
 
phiwum said:
I don't think believers go straight for the whole tamale. They see that Trump was not successful in his grand schemes and already have a deep distrust of big government, so they accept that career employees are thwarting his plans. They also reckon that Hillary is plumb evil and is due to pay the price and that Trump will indeed lock her up.

And then, once you start seeing political opponents and career employees as evil, you are slowly opening yourself up to the possibility they're more evil than you first thought.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if it works a bit like Scientology, where you aren't exposed to the truly ******* insane ideas until you're so far down the rabbithole, you aren't likely to back out.

There was an article a good while ago, which pointed out that few Q adherents actually see the original dumps, instead getting their information - and interpretations - from third parties, such as the various apps and Q gurus. When qmap.pub was shut down, some of the lowly adherents ventured onto 8chan/8kun to get the Q dumps, and they were horrified to see the kind of community that Q had originated in.
 
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