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Tom Palven said:
You are asking my opinion, and I'm done with that.



What is your opinion?
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Your refusal to answer a direct question has been noted.

Also, if you are refusing to answer questions as a result of the statements you make and the questions you answer, what are doing here. You need to delete your account and get lost.

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Tom Palven said:
You are asking my opinion, and I'm done with that.

What is your opinion?
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I'm asking you to not be a coward and admit the implications of your claims.

Your argument is that COVID-19 isn't really a pandemic - that it's just a run-of-the-mill virus that's being blown out of proportion in order that U.S. hospitals can cash in on Federal assistance. But the U.S. is but 5% of the human population, and the other 95% are just as committed to the reality of COVID-19. So either they're all doing it for the sake of U.S. hospitals, or your argument is stupid.

I'm asking you to pick one of those answers.
 
Tom Palven said:
You are asking my opinion, and I'm done with that.

What is your opinion?
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My opinion is that science is the way to go. There is an objective world, and science is the only reliable way to investigate how it works. We know a lot about covid-19, even if not everything, and we know some promising ways to deal with it, though it's a work in progress. That's how science works sometimes.

OTOH, observing some of the clueless anti-science posturing here is like listening to arguments for the benefits of cleaning a loaded gun. Are you really willing to stake your silly uninformed fancies against the lives of so many? It's bizarre when events happening in the real world become matters of "opinion", but that's what paranoia and echo chambers will get you.

Please try to do better in future, Tom.
 
Here is a 2017 TED talk by the head of Moderna, Tal Zaks, talking about what these mRNA "vaccines" Sleepy Joe and the other living presidents except Donald Trump market to us as "safe, Fauci told me so", really do:


An "operating system" it is. Maybe that's great, but I would like to be informed about that before I allow it into my body.
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Here is a 2017 TED talk by the head of Moderna, Tal Zaks, talking about what these mRNA "vaccines" Sleepy Joe and the other living presidents except Donald Trump market to us as "safe . . .
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Ex-president ***** -his-pants must think they're safe as he's taken the vaccine.

ETA: And . . . and Diaper Don is tripping all over himself in an effort to take claim for the vaccine.
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Here is a 2017 TED talk by the head of Moderna, Tal Zaks, talking about what these mRNA "vaccines" Sleepy Joe and the other living presidents except Donald Trump market to us as "safe, Fauci told me so", really do:
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Perhaps you missed it but Trump has hyped "Operation Warp Speed" all along and specifically urged Americans to get vaccinated in a Dec. tweet while also saying the vaccine programs were going well. And, of course it turned out he was vaccinated in Jan. even though he already recovered from Covid-19. Trump was also highly annoyed that the vaccine efficacy data wasn't released prior to the election.

Probably the notion he wasn't pushing covid-19 vax was from people remembering his old autism/vaccine nonsense.
 
Foster Zygote said:
I'm asking you to not be a coward and admit the implications of your claims.

Your argument is that COVID-19 isn't really a pandemic - that it's just a run-of-the-mill virus that's being blown out of proportion in order that U.S. hospitals can cash in on Federal assistance. But the U.S. is but 5% of the human population, and the other 95% are just as committed to the reality of COVID-19. So either they're all doing it for the sake of U.S. hospitals, or your argument is stupid.

I'm asking you to pick one of those answers.
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Have you stopped beating your boyfriend or does he like it?

Save your loaded questions for someone else.

I've explained my position, compared the categorization of Covid-19 to C. diff, and so on, ad nauseum.

No one here except Caroline and Childlike Empress is at all SKEPTICAL about the magnitude of the alleged Covid-19 plague, so rather than beat a dead horse, let the moderators remove this comment, too, and I'm vanished.
 
marting said:
Perhaps you missed it but Trump has hyped "Operation Warp Speed" all along and specifically urged Americans to get vaccinated in a Dec. tweet while also saying the vaccine programs were going well. And, of course it turned out he was vaccinated in Jan. even though he already recovered from Covid-19. Trump was also highly annoyed that the vaccine efficacy data wasn't released prior to the election.

Probably the notion he wasn't pushing covid-19 vax was from people remembering his old autism/vaccine nonsense.
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I was referring to the very recent call by "the presidents" to "take the vaccine". Your continued hatred for Trump is irrelevant, I just mentioned that he was not among "the presidents" as a matter of fact. Maybe just listen to what the head of Moderna said in that 2017 video - that's what I wanted you to do.
 
Childlike Empress said:
I was referring to the very recent call by "the presidents" to "take the vaccine". Your continued hatred for Trump is irrelevant, I just mentioned that he was not among "the presidents" as a matter of fact. Maybe just listen to what the head of Moderna said in that 2017 video - that's what I wanted you to do.
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Nah bull ****, then there was no reason to mention ***** -his-pants at all. You were attempting to make some sort of point as to Trump being wiser as to the safety of the vaccine, then when it was demonstrated that he had pushed it, and actually taken it, you're now attempting to shine it on. As I said, bull ****.
 
Childlike Empress said:
I was referring to the very recent call by "the presidents" to "take the vaccine". Your continued hatred for Trump is irrelevant, I just mentioned that he was not among "the presidents" as a matter of fact. Maybe just listen to what the head of Moderna said in that 2017 video - that's what I wanted you to do.
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Your statement implied strongly that Trump was not a supporter of Covid-19 vaccination and that is simply not so. As for why he wasn't included with the former presidents, it probably has to do with why they were at the Biden inauguration and he wasn't. It most certainly wasn't because he didn't support Covid-19 vaccinations. I give him full credit for supporting vaccination even if you don't.
 
Tom Palven said:
Have you stopped beating your boyfriend or does he like it?

Save your loaded questions for someone else.

I've explained my position, compared the categorization of Covid-19 to C. diff, and so on, ad nauseum.

No one here except Caroline and Childlike Empress is at all SKEPTICAL about the magnitude of the alleged Covid-19 plague, so rather than beat a dead horse, let the moderators remove this comment, too, and I'm vanished.
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I take it that you define a loaded question as one for which you have no informed answer.
 
marting said:
Your statement implied strongly that Trump was not a supporter of Covid-19 vaccination and that is simply not so. As for why he wasn't included with the former presidents, it probably has to do with why they were at the Biden inauguration and he wasn't. It most certainly wasn't because he didn't support Covid-19 vaccinations. I give him full credit for supporting vaccination even if you don't.
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The news I was referring to, and you were obviously unaware of before my post, was this:

Former Presidents Carter, Clinton, Bush and Obama and first ladies unite to urge Americans to get vaccinated
 
marting said:
No, I was both quite aware of it as well as Trump's absence. I would have been surprised if he had been a part of it given how each of the others felt about Trump, especially subsequent to the Capitol riot.
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You just babbled along without knowing what I was talking about that Trump is also on the vaccination agenda. I could turn this around smearing you as a Trump supporter and/or clueless, but let's get back to what the Moderna guy said about the nature of the mRNA "vaccine".
 
Tom Palven said:
Have you stopped beating your boyfriend or does he like it?
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Am I supposed to be triggered because you tried to hurt me with a homophobic joke? In my experience, when people get angry they try to hurt people with the weapons that they fear most - the words that wou actually hurt them. I

You're just confirming that being confronted with this problem regarding your claims makes you frustrated and angry. By losing your temper you're just tacitly admitting that you lost the argument.

Save your loaded questions for someone else.

I've explained my position, compared the categorization of Covid-19 to C. diff, and so on, ad nauseum.
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We've already addressed that, and it has nowt to do with what I just asked you. You aren't answering my question - and it's transparently obvious to anyone that you don't want to answer it because you can't do so without either admitting you were wrong (which is what a smart person would do) or pretending to believe in a cartoonish scenario that even you recognize is utterly ridiculous.

No one here except Caroline and Childlike Empress is at all SKEPTICAL about the magnitude of the alleged Covid-19 plague...
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Skepticism implies critical thinking. Caroline thought DNA was a preservative, and CE thinks David Icke, the guy who claims that many world leaders and entertainers are shape-shifting, reptilian aliens. Your real problem is that we're applying skepticism to your claims, and they're falling to pieces so fast that you're left ducking the shrapnel.

so rather than beat a dead horse, let the moderators remove this comment, too, and I'm vanished.
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You said you were done with me once before, and you couldn't walk away. Do you really have the fortitude to walk away without getting the last word?
 
Foster Zygote said:
Am I supposed to be triggered because you tried to hurt me with a homophobic joke? In my experience, when people get angry they try to hurt people with the weapons that they fear most - the words that wou actually hurt them. I

You're just confirming that being confronted with this problem regarding your claims makes you frustrated and angry. By losing your temper you're just tacitly admitting that you lost the argument.


We've already addressed that, and it has nowt to do with what I just asked you. You aren't answering my question - and it's transparently obvious to anyone that you don't want to answer it because you can't do so without either admitting you were wrong (which is what a smart person would do) or pretending to believe in a cartoonish scenario that even you recognize is utterly ridiculous.


Skepticism implies critical thinking. Caroline thought DNA was a preservative, and CE thinks David Icke, the guy who claims that many world leaders and entertainers are shape-shifting, reptilian aliens. Your real problem is that we're applying skepticism to your claims, and they're falling to pieces so fast that you're left ducking the shrapnel.


You said you were done with me once before, and you couldn't walk away. Do you really have the fortitude to walk away without getting the last word?
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No.
 
Childlike Empress said:
You just babbled along without knowing what I was talking about that Trump is also on the vaccination agenda. I could turn this around smearing you as a Trump supporter and/or clueless, but let's get back to what the Moderna guy said about the nature of the mRNA "vaccine".
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He seemed quite enthusiastic about the potential (in 2017). I must presume he still is.

I was more entertained by the wave of frothing religious lunacy in the comments.
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