Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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bruto said:
I use some supplements too, but I sure as hell hope that when I get a sodium ascorbate tablet or the like it was mixed in a lab, and not by some hippie squashing lemons in the bathtub.
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I've heard of bathtub gin, but not bathtub vitamin C. I don't think consuming either of those is a good idea.
 
Tom Palven said:
Since hospitals in the US get a big bonus for handling suspected Covid-related deaths, Covid-19 may never disappear.
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Well, when Covid-19 is eliminated from all the other countries, where the remaining 96% of the human race live, maybe you can move somewhere else.
 
Steve said:
COVID in some form will likely never disappear, just like influenza. That has nothing to do with the profits of US hospitals.
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Millions die annually from the seasonal flu, maybe this will not be any different, we don't know, long road to go, I still get NO vaccines.. I do my own immune support and doing very well.
 
A supplement lobby group which supports homeopathy and vitamin mega-dosing, whose founder argues agin the use of RCTs, which has been taken apart by Orac at least once?

Can we not have some proper sources?
 
kali1137 said:
At this point why would anyone bother reading any of the rubbish you post? You have made it very clear that you have no interest in learning and won't read anything given to you. But somehow you demand we read?
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Maybe OPEN SOME MINDS...I know that's a big thought.
 
OK, so a paper from Nature - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5 - from which I find: "While ADE has been well documented in vitro for a number of viruses, including human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)33,34, Ebola35,36, influenza37 and flaviviruses38, the relevance of in vitro ADE for human coronaviruses remains less clear."

And: "No definitive role for ADE in human coronavirus diseases has been established."

And: "Should it occur, ERD caused by human vaccines will first be observed in larger phase II and/or phase III efficacy trials that have sufficient infection events for statistical comparisons between the immunized and placebo control study arms. Safety profiles of COVID-19 vaccines should be closely monitored in real time during human efficacy trials, especially for vaccine modalities that may have a higher theoretical potential to cause immunopathology (such as inactivated whole-virus formulations or viral vectors)64,65." Which hasn't happened yet...

And: "Preclinical data suggest a low risk of ADE for potently neutralizing mAbs at doses substantially above the threshold for neutralization, which protected mice and Syrian hamsters against SARS-CoV-2 challenge without enhancement of infection or disease81,82."

And: "ADE has been observed in SARS, MERS and other human respiratory virus infections including RSV and measles, which suggests a real risk of ADE for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and antibody-based interventions. However, clinical data has not yet fully established a role for ADE in human COVID-19 pathology. Steps to reduce the risks of ADE from immunotherapies include the induction or delivery of high doses of potent neutralizing antibodies, rather than lower concentrations of non-neutralizing antibodies that would be more likely to cause ADE."

Not looking good at all for this latest bit of scare-mongering from the Supplement Shills...
 
Caroline13 said:
Maybe OPEN SOME MINDS...I know that's a big thought.
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This from the poster who proudly proclaimed that her mind is not open to the possibility that she is wrong... As ever, when someone asks you to keep an open mind, they really mean "uncritically accept what I'm saying."
 
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