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Creationists hit the British Medical Journal

Deetee

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Following a piece in the BMJ on 17th Dec about the Darwin exhibition, the BMJ rapid response columns seems to have been targetted by creationists and IDers. Sad to say, most of them are members of my own profession who should really know better.
I've no time to respond, but wonder if any JREFers might like to have a go.
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/331/7530/1479#124005
 
I posted this

The "debate" about ID concerns me deeply. On one hand it illustrates how badly we have failed in the United States in educating at least two generations as to what science is and how it is distinguished from religion. The very fact that ID can be considered a "Theory" bespeaks a very profound ignorance of what a theory in science is.

The second area of concern, in my mind, is the inherent acceptance of ignorance as an option in human intellectual inquiry, and the fact that this option has attraction to those who have, one would have hoped, replaced superstition with rational thought.

ID, after all, defines areas where "design" is the only option for the existence of certain things. What is really being said is that one or more people have not been able to intellectually deal with certain classes of complexity and therefore they, and by extension we, must fall back on a supernatural explanation. Aside from the elementary logical error implied by this approach, it raises ignorance to an equal level with rational exploration of nature.

It is sad, medieval, and harkens back to the time when humans found magic in much of their natural world and, because of their ignorance, propitiated various deities who provided "explanations” for what they could not understand.

A slippery slope indeed.
 
Fundamentally information is selected out by natural selection, not inserted in, so that the evidence of loss of information and in some instances whole species by extinction ( not gain ) is strong evidence against the evolutionary model of origins. The laws of information science strongly favour the Creationist position.
This, from a Professor of Thermodynamics?!

Diagnosis: Willful Stupidity
Prognosis: Terminal
 
Fundamentally information is selected out by natural selection, not inserted in, so that the evidence of loss of information and in some instances whole species by extinction ( not gain ) is strong evidence against the evolutionary model of origins. The laws of information science strongly favour the Creationist position.


This, from a Professor of Thermodynamics?!

Diagnosis: Willful Stupidity
Prognosis: Terminal
:jaw-dropp

He may be a Professor of Thermodynamics, but he clearly knows nothing about either genetics or evolution. Scientists should stick to their own field of expertise!
 
:jaw-dropp

He may be a Professor of Thermodynamics, but he clearly knows nothing about either genetics or evolution. Scientists should stick to their own field of expertise!
It's worse than that. His comments demonstrate a lack of understanding of Thermodynamics, as well.
 
from the BMJ

Recent responses in this debate haven't taken things forwards, and we risk ending up with the same inconclusive skirmishing that characterised the debate over whether HIV infection causes AIDS, which ran on this site for several years. See: http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/330/7503/1284

No doubt some readers will want to draw attention to weaknesses in responses already posted; other respondents will want to defend themselves against what they regard as unfair/misguided criticisms of their previous postings. But if we respect these arguments the debate on this website will never end.

As in the HIV/AIDS debate -we're all in favour of the debate continuing somewhere, just not here, in perpetuity.

Competing interests: employee, BMJ Publishing Group

Awwww they don't want a jref.
 

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