Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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Dear Caroline, many, if not most, of the posters on a site like this have some sort of relevant background, some science education, some of us come from a healthcare background, we have spent years upon years looking at, reading about, talking about the claims made by and for conventional medicine and alternative medicine. Our scientific education teaches us to be even-handed when approaching evidence and the means by which that evidence is produced.

However, after years of this, reading as much of the available literature as possible, one can safely conclude that homeopathy is pre-scientific nonsense with no evidence to support it, that acupuncture is, at best, a theatrical placebo based on pre-scientific ideas of physiology and anatomy and all the rest...

One can also conclude that a number of practices of conventional medicine are similarly lacking in evidence, which is why we in the UK have a body called NICE to assess and promote best, evidence-based clinical practice and why it is professionally ill-advised not to follow their guidelines, as your practice is not defensible.

Reaching these conclusions after a lot of thought, discussion, reading and the like is not being closed minded in the slightest (man, the decade long discussion I had with a particular colleague about how we assessed evidence of efficacy in our field...), it is having been open enough to bother looking and reading in the first place and finding there is nothing concrete to back up the claims.

You are the 5 millionth (probably) person to wander along and trot through The Alt Med and Anti-Vax Play Book, so it should not surprise you that no-one bothers with playing nice, as we have heard it all before. You have not offered anything new or different to that which is thoroughly discredited over and over and over; you have not responded to requests for the "science" you claim exists.
 
Ignore all these narrow-witted naysayers, caroline13. They just don't want to broaden and expand their minds, sad as that is.

But * I * do ! Here and now, in the sight of God and man, I will begin the Great Work to open and broaden my very own mind!

Here goes. I'm trying. Straining. (Hey, this is fun!) Exerting. (I think it's working.) Making a HUGE effort! HUGE! HUUUUUGE!!

Oops. Didn't intend that. Excuse me. Be back in a while.
 
I never asked...Noory is not into the allopathic MD world for starters. And Ben started out in pharmacy and changed his tune after that degree. Did you read any history on Ben or don't care and that's OK...

Where are his clinical trials published? What are his results? Were his studies randomized, double-blind and placebo controlled? Who has replicated his results using controlled studies?
 
Yes, you are. You are suggesting that people abandon medical treatments and instead take vitamin supplements (which have been repeatedly shown to not be efficacious in treating OR preventing disease unless the individual was deficient from their diet/lifestyle). People could literally die if they followed your pseudo-medical ******** advice.

Worse, you advocate for people not to take sensible medical precautions and preventatives such as being vaccinated. You are advocating for a practice that kills and cripples children.

In fact, if you were to get COVID-19, especially if you are asymptomatic and would therefore not even realise you had it, and approach someone like me, who is extremely vulnerable due to underlying medical conditions (several heart defects, in case you care. Not that you are likely to care about anyone who isn't you)you could very likely KILL ME.

That pretty much covers it. This isn’t just some harmless silliness; it causes real harm to real people.

And as pointed out by others – it would be pretty easy for Caroline to shut up all the big meanies around here – just provide some actual evidence.
 
Aaaaaah, so we can add "Covid Hoax" to the list.



Mebbe I should ask my sister to pay a visit with the Baseball Bat of Reason and ask you to explain exactly what it was that flattened her for weeks and had a positive Covid test and closed her hospital to admissions for a few weeks while it was full of folk testing positive for Covid. That might be interesting...
Caroline13 would say your sister wasn't talking her supplements/grape seeds/zinc enhancers etc
 
Apparently my cousin wasn't either. And now she's dead.

She's dead at least in part because like you, Caroline, her state was denying the illness, not closing down, allowing gatherings. You and people like you have a great deal to answer for. Shame on you all.
 
Why do you just start thousands of threads about the same crap? It's so annoying. Why are your garbage threads not being merged?
 
Another scattergun shot at reality I see. Many of your other statements and links suggest that the Corona Virus is just a liberal hoax, flu, fakery which you intend to avoid simply by taking vitamins and grape seeds.

So the obvious question here is: herd immunity to what?


And if you are convinced that the mainstream media are lying, why are you linking to Newsweek?
 
You did read the part of the article where they cited vaccination as a part of that here immunity, right?

Yes, the vaccination push is a large part of the immunity, I guess. And also those who had covid and got better and those who had it and never knew they did, many factors. And far less testing being done so less "cases" being reported.
 
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Another scattergun shot at reality I see. Many of your other statements and links suggest that the Corona Virus is just a liberal hoax, flu, fakery which you intend to avoid simply by taking vitamins and grape seeds.

So the obvious question here is: herd immunity to what?


And if you are convinced that the mainstream media are lying, why are you linking to Newsweek?

Why? Why not, that is where the info comes from.
 
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And if you are convinced that the mainstream media are lying, why are you linking to Newsweek?

Clearly they're only lying when they don't agree* with her various hobby horses...

*contain a sentence or two that agrees when devoid of context
 
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