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Split Thread A second impeachment

WTF? McConnell now -- after the vote -- sounds like he's supporting conviction. He says Trump is morally and practically responsible for the attack on the Capitol.
 
Bob001 said:
WTF? McConnell now -- after the vote -- sounds like he's supporting conviction. He says Trump is morally and practically responsible for the attack on the Capitol.
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It's a flex. He's proving that nothing that actually happens matters.
 
shemp said:
Well, this isn't over really. The criminal charges are coming for him. I honestly believe that if he lives long enough, Donald John Trump will eventually see the inside of a prison cell.
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And there is plenty of time (years really) to investigate and strengthen the cases against him. I can only hope there are charges coming for his children as well.

As the prosecutions of the insurrectionists proceed and come to a conclusion we are going to see more and more evidence come to light, and it wont be so easily dismissed in a court of law. Charges related to the insurrection are not the only ones that could be coming either.
 
Yeah but Donald Trump is going to go to his grave never answering for a direct attack on democracy.

Pardon me if him going down on in 5 years on some tax code violation isn't a huge comfort.
 
Yep....he's going for the "It wasn't Constitutional" excuse. What a load of BS.

ETA: He's wiping away historical precedent, the vote of the Senate on the constitutionality, and the overwhelming opinion of Constitutional scholars and substituting his own opinion. The sheer arrogance is mind boggeling.
 
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Firestone said:
7 Republicans out of 50 vote guilty ...
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I know, there will be complaints about how it turned out. But....

I believe that this is the most votes ever by the party of the President in an impeachment vote.

His first impeachment was the first time ever that a senator (Romney) voted to convict a president from his own party. This time, 7 did so? That is completely unprecedented.
 
The vote was that the proceedings were constitutional so you should have honoured that vote and voted on the facts you spineless turd.
 
pgwenthold said:
I know, there will be complaints about how it turned out. But....

I believe that this is the most votes ever by the party of the President in an impeachment vote.

His first impeachment was the first time ever that a senator (Romney) voted to convict a president from his own party. This time, 7 did so? That is completely unprecedented.
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Yep. Trump has now had a member of his own party vote against him in two separate Impeachments, which is.... something at least.

(As always I still sort of count Nixon, who would have had a lot of Republicans vote against had his impeachment moved forward if not for his "Screw you, you can't fire me, I quit.")
 
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McConnell is wiping away historical precedent, the vote of the Senate on the constitutionality, and the overwhelming opinion of Constitutional scholars and substituting his own opinion. The sheer arrogance is mind boggeling.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yeah but Donald Trump is going to go to his grave never answering for a direct attack on democracy.

Pardon me if him going down on in 5 years on some tax code violation isn't a huge comfort.
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He can still face criminal charges for what happened on Jan. 6 and the days leading up to it. This proceeding doesn't cause any future criminal trial to be double jeopardy. Presidential immunity is only in effect so long as the President is in office.
 
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Bob001 said:
WTF? McConnell now -- after the vote -- sounds like he's supporting conviction. He says Trump is morally and practically responsible for the attack on the Capitol.
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He feels the need to rationalize his vote. I can't listen to it. He's got NPR on a special, however-McConnell wants to speak, coverage.

He probably feels the need to rationalize why his white supremacist Senate turned a blind eye to the con-man-who-was-POTUS' crimes. He has a lot to apologize rationalize for, 4 years worth.
 
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Well, the GOP has shown how full of BS it's claim to be the party of supporting the Constituion is.
 
Time to arm up, folks. I think a second civil war is a matter of time now that it has been estalbsihed that a president is above the law, and the militant right has been emboldened.
 
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