Cancel culture IRL

[cullennz]

There's a video of how it went down.

Lol

You can't beat Brian for humorous

 

[Brainster]

A link might help.

Glenn Greenwald summarizes the details:

On a 2019 field trip for rich high school kids to Peru, he used the “n-word” after a student asked him whether he thought it was fair that one of her classmates was punished for having used it in a video. McNeil used it not with malice or as a racist insult but to inquire about the facts of the video so he could answer the student’s question.

After New York Times senior editors — including African-American editor-in-chief Dean Baquet — investigated and concluded that “only” a reprimand was appropriate — “it did not appear to me that his intentions were hateful or malicious,” said Baquet — dozens of McNeil’s colleagues wrote a furious letter demanding far more severe punishment. “Our community is outraged and in pain,” said the 150 Times employee-signatories, adding: “intent is irrelevant.” Intent is irrelevant when judging how harshly to punish this storied journalist for uttering this word.

John McWhorter has a pretty good take:

Inevitably, in response to outcry over how needlessly punitive this is, his inquisitors and defenders will note that he is documented to have said some other things that suggest that he is not completely on board with what a certain educated orthodoxy considers the proper positions on race, and that he was reputed to have treated some staffers in a discriminatory way. However, if the complaints were only these, it is reasonable to suppose that he would still have his job. It was the N-word thing that pushed things over the edge, and is the focus of the letter signed by 150 staffers demanding, in effect, his head on a pole.

That is, for people like this, the N-word has gone from being a slur to having, in its mere shape and sound, a totemic taboo status directly akin to how Harry Potter characters process the name Voldemort and theatre people maintain a pox on saying “Macbeth” inside a theatre. The letter roasts McNeil for “us[ing] language that is offensive and unacceptable,” implying a string of language, a whole point or series thereof, something like a stream, a stretch – “language.” But no: they are referring to his referring to a single word.

I love the comparison to Voldemort and Macbeth.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Hot off the cancellation presses:

Gina Carano will not be returning to The Mandalorian or the Star Wars galaxy after sharing a post on social media implying that being a Republican today is like being Jewish during the Holocaust.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/the-mandalorian-star-gina-carano-fired-amid-social-media-controversy

As a fellow ****-poster, I have to salute my fellow jackass that decided expressing her ****** opinions was more important that playing a character in one of the most beloved shows currently on television. o7 Pour one out.

 

[lobosrul5]

Hot off the cancellation presses:



https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/the-mandalorian-star-gina-carano-fired-amid-social-media-controversy

As a fellow ****-poster, I have to salute my fellow jackass that decided expressing her ****** opinions was more important that playing a character in one of the most beloved shows currently on television. o7 Pour one out.

https://twitter.com/ginacarano/status/1327806477923323904/photo/1

And mocked mask-wearing which who knows may have cost a fan or two of hers their life.

"Cancel culture" gets a from me in this specific instance.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Hot off the cancellation presses:



https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/the-mandalorian-star-gina-carano-fired-amid-social-media-controversy

As a fellow ****-poster, I have to salute my fellow jackass that decided expressing her ****** opinions was more important that playing a character in one of the most beloved shows currently on television. o7 Pour one out.

I think it was funny that her transphobic ass got booted the same day as the star of the show expresses support for his trans sister.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

I think it was funny that her transphobic ass got booted the same day as the star of the show expresses support for his trans sister.

Interesting that she managed to survive the backlash from her anti-trans posts and decided to double down by comparing being a reactionary crank to being a holocaust victim.

How do people nailing themselves to the crucifix drive the last nail in?

 

[HansMustermann]

TBH, even more than getting oneself cancelled or not, I always find it amazing how people can have their head so far up their own ass. And I mean, so far that some minor inconvenience at best for them (like ok, so not everyone likes or agrees with them; so what?) is verily on par with being a victim of the most massive and brutal genocide in recorded history. Kinda like the apologists who think they're verily persecuted like St Peter (who got nailed for his efforts) if you don't let them tell you how to live your life.

But really, few things say "self-centered twit" like the kind of skewed perspective where the most minor inconvenience for oneself is verily at least on par, but usually worse, than the worst stuff that ever happened to OTHER people. Few things say, "I don't give a flying f-bomb about other people or their problems" any clearer than that professing that kind of perspective. Well, or not without actually dropping an f-bomb.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Interesting that she managed to survive the backlash from her anti-trans posts and decided to double down by comparing being a reactionary crank to being a holocaust victim.

How do people nailing themselves to the crucifix drive the last nail in?

Hey she could make the comparison more apt by simply redirecting the exhaust of her car into the cabin.

 

[Mumbles]

Interesting that she managed to survive the backlash from her anti-trans posts and decided to double down by comparing being a reactionary crank to being a holocaust victim.

How do people nailing themselves to the crucifix drive the last nail in?

Truth is, one of her larger problems is the simple fact that she's generally seen as a mediocre actress. Still, all she really needs to do is keep quiet for a bit points to his "Nobody gets Canceled" tshirt. She had a good thing going, she ****** it up by being a right-wing muppet in public, give it a couple years and she'll be back as some other uninteresting but reasonably shapely fighter in Fast and Furious in Space or whatever.

 

[dirtywick]

It's true, the better you are the more you get away with.

Anybody in that position should just hire a PR firm to manage their social media, hold whatever controversial opinions they want, and share them with friends and family if they desire to do so. All social media isn't created equal. To people like Gina Carano, social media is basically just a PR program anyway, she's not using it to keep up with friends and family and life events, it's to promote her career. Millions of people read her offensively stupid tweets, and she got millions of reactions. The fact that she thought her social media was an appropriate venue to say something so stupid is her own fault.

 

[dudalb]

The ones who scream cancel culture the loudest have a cancel culture of their own.

 

[johnny karate]

Interesting that she managed to survive the backlash from her anti-trans posts and decided to double down by comparing being a reactionary crank to being a holocaust victim.

How do people nailing themselves to the crucifix drive the last nail in?

It’s hard to imagine the level of entitlement it takes to be a terrible actor in a minor role who thinks they can openly defy the major studio who employs them without consequence.

 

[Leftus]

Well, see, this is the problem I have with this thread in a nutshell. Virtually all of the horrible damage I'm supposed to be appalled by is at the stage of "might eventually happen", or it might be at the end of the most ridiculously hyperbole of a slippery slope, or such. And that is when it's not just simply made up, but let's ignore those for a while.

How about we worry about things that happened in reality, rather than what SF fanfic sequel to those events someone imagined in their head? I mean, you can imagine any sequence of events, when you're the author and control the story and the reactions of everyone involved. Reality tends to have more rigid constraints than that.

So nobody should worry about the mob screaming for your head because they haven't beheaded anyone yet, despite that being their express goal and intent?

Having to deal with the mob doesn't come at a cost? Who knows what jobs Pratt missed out on because the studio doesn't want to deal with the mob. Johnny Depp is an example of this. His marriage goes sideways, his ex-wife flat out lies about what happened, and he loses some gigs because of the mob.

This only the stuff we hear about because of the stature of the one accused.

 

[HansMustermann]

Who knows what jobs Pratt missed out on because the studio doesn't want to deal with the mob.

Well, here's the deal: wake me up when you actually DO know the premises for your argument, not when you think that NOT knowing just means you can fill in the blanks with whatever fairy tale lets you be offended

 

[Dr. Keith]

Well, here's the deal: wake me up when you actually DO know the premises for your argument, not when you think that NOT knowing just means you can fill in the blanks with whatever fairy tale lets you be offended

I was going to hire him via Cameo to wish my kid happy birthday but she said he was a moron.

Does that count?

Does it count double if I said my kid was actually twins? Triplets?

 

[JoeMorgue]

Well that's the thing isn't it.

Chris Pratt is the star of the 3 of the biggest franchises in Hollywood and he's a conservative but, and here's the key factor, he doesn't spout off random hate and hide behind his conservatism.

It's always the same crap.

"Oh man I got cancelled just being a conservative?"
"Oh you were cancelled for advocating for frugal fiscal policies?"
"Well no..."
"Oh then for arguing to strengthening of traditional social institutions?"
"Well, no not that one either."
"Oh then it must have been strong national defense?"
"No, not that one."
"Rugged individualism?"
"No."
"That time you got in a DUI and were got on camera saying that blacks and Jews were running the world and called the arresting officer a Cuck because his backup was a woman?"
"Yeah that's the one."

 

[JoeMorgue]

Who knows what jobs Pratt missed out on because the studio doesn't want to deal with the mob.

Oh yeah that's totally reasonable.

"He's one of the highest paid actors, most recognizable movie stars, and lead actor in 3 tentpole huge market blockbusters franchises for 3 different movie studios... but maybe he'd be doing better if evil libruls weren't trying to cancel him."

Dude's got 3 different Lego-mini figs based on characters he's played. "Cancelled" *Scoff, jerk off motion*

 

[HansMustermann]

I don't even need to know any of that, though, to dismiss an argument which told me upfront that it's unsound. Like, in the very first two words. When the level of support for the premises is at the level of "who knows?", well, then that saved me the trouble of dissecting it any further, didn't it?

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Moving along this one pretty fast.

After Disney firing, Gina Carano announces new film project with Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/538632-after-disney-firing-gina-carano-announces-new-film-project-with-ben-shapiros

 

[johnny karate]

So nobody should worry about the mob screaming for your head because they haven't beheaded anyone yet, despite that being their express goal and intent?

Having to deal with the mob doesn't come at a cost? Who knows what jobs Pratt missed out on because the studio doesn't want to deal with the mob. Johnny Depp is an example of this. His marriage goes sideways, his ex-wife flat out lies about what happened, and he loses some gigs because of the mob.

This only the stuff we hear about because of the stature of the one accused.

As pointed out, Chris Pratt is a bafflingly bad example of “cancel culture”.

But Johnny Depp isn’t much better. Yes, his career is in the crapper, but to pretend as if that was solely based on the fallout of his failed marriage is simply not true. Depp has been considered problematic for a while, and just like with Gina Carano, the decision-makers in Hollywood reached a breaking point.

Weird how every time a wokescold brings up an example of “cancel culture” run amok, it turns out they’re not telling the full story.

One would think that something so pervasive wouldn’t require distortions and misrepresentations to establish.