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Cont: [ED] Discussion: Trans Women are not Women (Part 5)

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Collin, have you checked out the site as a whole for IGLYO? I provided you a link to their home page up-thread.

https://www.iglyo.com/team/training-team/

The Training Team is equipped with a very diverse range of skills, ready to provide training (from basic LGBTQI topics to more advanced skill building, such as strategic planning and organisational development diagnostics). Some of the topics we are covering are intersectionality, norm criticism, campaigning, public speaking, training design and delivery, project design and management, etc.

Intersectionalists are the ultimate trolls. They ruin every movement.
 
We're hoping you'll actually check out the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer & Intersex Youth and Student Organisation (IGLYO) and realize it today.

We're estimating that it may take a week or more, at your current rate, to get there. No worries, though. Take as much time as you need.

You're recommending I join IGLYO? They must be on your side then? :rolleyes:
 
You're recommending I join IGLYO? They must be on your side then? : rolleyes :

IGLYO is a real organization. They are the publishers of the pamphlet. It's not fake. They're not joking. It is not a troll organization created to make trans rights activists look bad. It's actual, sincere trans rights activists trying to look as good as they can.

Why do you still think they're fake?
 
If you wanted me to learn anything about trans people, you'd have directed me to a scientific article on gender dysphoria research.

Readers of the thread have been directed to several such articles. Right now, we want you to learn something - anything! - about trans rights activists. Which is why we've directed you to an actual website of actual TRAs, who are actually telling you all about themselves and their activism.

For some reason you keep ignoring the info we're directing your way, and calling it fake. That's super weird for you to be doing, Collin. What's going on?
 
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Readers of the thread have been directed to several such articles. Right now, we want you to learn something - anything! - about trans rights activists. Which is why we've directed you to an actual website of actual TRAs, who are actually telling you all about themselves and their activism.

For some reason you keep ignoring the info we're directing your way, and calling it fake. That's super weird for you to be doing, Collin. What's going on?

They are not TRAs. They are, by their own admission, Intersectionalists.
 
Exactly. If males are no danger to anyone, then transwomen should be entirely safe in the gents. Problem solved. Well done lads.

And they ARE safe in general.

Want to know the major reason there are assaults on trans women in restrooms?
Sex workers.
Those transwomen hustlers don't get paid in the women's room. They do take a risk by their trade though. Being in a place with drugs and/or alcohol and being what they are is a recipe for risk.
The thought is that they are forced into this work...but the same is not true for transmen. Transmen seem to be ok not soliciting and they just end up doing some normal job (and let's be honest, who would be the sex customers for them?)

I saw something last year about a day of remembrance on 20+ trans women murdered. Most of them had a specific profile of being younger black MtF. Of those, there were just 2 of them who were not sex workers and one of those was a FtM victim of her brothers random shooting at a bar where many were killed and he likely didn't even know he/she was there.

I recall one of the articles about a trans activist murdered which said "oh she was with friends but then accepted a ride from a man she met that night" as if this was simply a blunder in her judgment of getting a ride home.

At let's not forget here that the murderers were ALL males.

The normal man in a bathroom just trying to urinate is not the villain.
 
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IGLYO is a real organization. They are the publishers of the pamphlet. It's not fake. They're not joking. It is not a troll organization created to make trans rights activists look bad. It's actual, sincere trans rights activists trying to look as good as they can.

Why do you still think they're fake?

Intersectionalists are never sincere about anything.
 
I saw something last year about a day of remembrance on 20+ trans women murdered. Most of them had a specific profile of being younger black MtF. Of those, there were just 2 of them who were not sex workers and one of those was a FtM victim of her brothers random shooting at a bar where many were killed and he likely didn't even know he/she was there.

Well that's a bit of news I hadn't heard before.
 
I tend to agree that they ruin everything, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t sincere. Sincere people are the most dangerous.

They are not sincere about being TRAs. They're protean; they imitate every activist cause. They're not necessarily being malicious; it's just a game to them.
 
Well that's a bit of news I hadn't heard before.


You didn't know that almost all trans murders are of sex workers? Most of them in Brazil? And that almost all the rest were victims of ordinary murders with no suggestion that their being trans had anything to do with it?

You didn't know that, paradoxically, trans people in Britain (I don't know about the USA) are actually murdered at a lower rate than either men or women, a spectacularly lower rate than men? It's been said that the best thing a man can do to avoid being murdered is to put on a dress.

In Britain we recently (on my actual birthday) had the slightly sick-making spectacle of politicians lining up to mark the trans day of remembrance, going on about these terrible murders and the tragic losses, when in fact there has not been a single trans murder victim in the country for more than two years. More trans people actually commit murders than are murdered.

Meanwhile women are murdered at the rate of about two a week. Sigh.
 
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