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Covid death reporting is almost instantaneous, on a daily basis. The accumulation of Death Certificate reports takes months to process and then to be published as annual statistics. Any actual analysis of a surplus or deficiency of causes of death cannot be made until all deaths are counted. This will happen sometime from now.
 
marting said:
BTW, the "bombshell paper's author is not only a fan of Wilhelm Reich of the infamous "argone accumulator" quackery that was big 75 years ago but he runs this organization!
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Orgone Accumulators were a wonderful form of complete insane crap.

If you really want to melt your brain, there is an insane 1971 Yugoslavian film that incorporates orgone accumulators into a complete mess of a documentary about communism and sexual practices. :)

Mysteries of the Organism 1971 : Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpFR2uYeMDA
 

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Ivermectin and where to get it. I'm sure you all have been hearing about the old drug Ivermectin to fight covid on your own if you get it.

A friend just sent me info that one can get it at Amazon Pharmacy and for 20 tablets, 3mg tabs, the price is about $130.

My gut says the price has been gouged to the sky like so much in this Mess of Covid. I've read the drug has been around for some 40 yrs and would normally cost pennies.

And the key is IF a doc will even prescribe it. They have all been brainwashed NOT to prescribe Ivermectin and Hydroxychlorine (around 60 yrs). as the push is more vaccines , vaccines, vaccines..

This covid crisis has made a lot of new millionaires, the mask industries, sanitizers and of course pharma.

Me, I keep immune system strong, that nasty Vit C, Vit D, Zinc, Quercetin and others do it for this gal.
 
Checkmite said:
Yikes, this guy sounds like he's down Bubba's alley for sure



Well, to be fair, I don't know if Bubba is the "stockpile weapons in case the military comes to get you and scare your wife into running away with the kids" type; I haven't really seen evidence of that. But the rest of it seems consistent.
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If this lunatic had not done something so disgusting, he would be hilarious. As it is, he should be charged with reckless engagerment, and if anyone in his area who got the spiked vaccine later dies of covid, reckless endagerment homicide.

Bastard.
 
Caroline13 said:
It's called a vaccine, but never approved...it's an experimental drug being called a vaccine.
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Nah. They are vaccines, designed to elicit an immune response of antibodies and T-cells. Which they seem to be doing very effectively.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...il&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-22d8dcc9bc-407285626
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You really expect us to take the advice of a tiny number of crackpots (the membership of the “American Frontline Doctors” group is in single figures with some members being ophthalmologists, and the leader being arrested for storming the the Capitol) over the advice of the vast bulk of the medical community? You anti-vaxxers make my blood boil - you promote dangerous irresponsible nonsense.
 
Caroline13 said:
It's called a vaccine, but never approved...it's an experimental drug being called a vaccine.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...il&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-22d8dcc9bc-407285626
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Hi new member. Is there a particular reason you joined this forum?

We are mostly open to new information but stuff like this shouts propaganda and not the kind they are claiming to address:
Correct language is ‘critical’: Not COVID-19 ‘vaccines,’ but experimental biological agents
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A lot of us here are familiar with pathophysiology and have a good understanding of the term, vaccine, and how the term is applied. A few of us are familiar with the fact vaccines are considered biologics. But that includes vaccines that have been around for a century like the tetanus vaccine.

Maybe the mRNA vaccines sound scary to you but they shouldn't. And when you consider how many people are suffering severe COVID-19 disease, the idea these vaccines are scary is absurd.

This is just flat-out wrong:
Dr. Gold insists that even the designation of the new products as vaccines is inapprorpriate.

“Definitely you should not be calling this the ‘COVID-19 vaccines,’” she says. “The reason is, whatever you call it, it’s experimental. It’s not been approved as a vaccine. It’s currently in its investigational stage.”
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Anyway, you simply won't get very far here with anti-vaxxer propaganda. And that website is full of all sorts of crap.
 
Though of relatively minor importance in the question of whether baloney is baloney, it seems patently ridiculous to say the vaccine is not a vaccine because it's experimental. An experimental thing is still the thing it is. An experimental vaccine, even if it fails and is thrown in the trash, is a vaccine, not a fried egg or a walrus.
 
bruto said:
Though of relatively minor importance in the question of whether baloney is baloney, it seems patently ridiculous to say the vaccine is not a vaccine because it's experimental. An experimental thing is still the thing it is. An experimental vaccine, even if it fails and is thrown in the trash, is a vaccine, not a fried egg or a walrus.
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Read any part of the the website quoted.

It's content is patently ridiculous in it's entirety.
 
Caroline13 said:
It's called a vaccine, but never approved...it's an experimental drug being called a vaccine.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...il&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-22d8dcc9bc-407285626
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There are so many errors on the website. i cannot believe they are promoting a treatment - hydroxychloroquine that has been shown to be ineffective in large studies, but not a vaccine that Israeli data shows reduces mortality on a population basis, that RCT show reduces deaths. There is of course data showing that vaccines also reduce transmissibility.

My guess is none of these 'front line doctors' are actually front line enough to see people coming in through ED with covid pneumonia, hasn't been looking after wards full of people (not all elderly), with covid pneumonia.

If this is where you are getting your facts from, I can tell you they are mostly false.
 
Caroline13 said:
Ivermectin and where to get it. I'm sure you all have been hearing about the old drug Ivermectin to fight covid on your own if you get it.
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Yes. It's generally useless and has potentially serious side-effects.

Caroline13 said:
A friend just sent me info that one can get it at Amazon Pharmacy and for 20 tablets, 3mg tabs, the price is about $130.

My gut says the price has been gouged to the sky like so much in this Mess of Covid. I've read the drug has been around for some 40 yrs and would normally cost pennies.
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:rolleyes:

Caroline13 said:
And the key is IF a doc will even prescribe it. They have all been brainwashed NOT to prescribe Ivermectin and Hydroxychlorine (around 60 yrs). as the push is more vaccines , vaccines, vaccines..
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You are spouting utterly bollocks. Ivermectin and Hydroxychlorine are useless against Covid.


Caroline13 said:
This covid crisis has made a lot of new millionaires, the mask industries, sanitizers and of course pharma.

Me, I keep immune system strong, that nasty Vit C, Vit D, Zinc, Quercetin and others do it for this gal.
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Jeebus, more bollocks. :rolleyes:
 
One of the assertions of links provided by Bubba and Caroline and those of their stripe is that Corona Virus is a hoax, and that the authorities are just attributing normal death rates to it. Because it takes a while to get statistics out for a year, they have an opportunity to make stupid allegations about things of which they're intentionally ignorant, without much contrary evidence, but that window is closing.

https://www.startribune.com/covid-19-highest-ever-minnesota-death-count-2020/600006952/?refresh=true
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
You're promoting information from a lying right wing organization that was involved in the recent failed insurrection.
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An organisation that endangers women's health by lying about the risks of terminating a pregnancy, falsely links abortions with breast cancer (a favourite of the religious right) and spouts homophobic and transphobic lies.
 
bruto said:
I know that.
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I just figure that that logical absurdity goes a little past just being wrong.
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Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig; es ist nicht einmal falsch!
 
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