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Split Thread A second impeachment

I'm surprised Trump isn't defending himself. After all, I'm sure he knows more about the law than any lawyer. He's had lawyers say to him, "Sir, how do you know so much about the law?" Perhaps it's because he's been involved in so many lawsuits like the world has never seen before and he's never lost (because he always settles before he can lose or just wears the suing party down by running out the clock or outspending them).

CNN reports Steve Bannon is urging Donnie to take the stand in his won defense. Problem is if he does not he is open to cross examnation the House Managers.
 
Now a story circulating around says that when a reporter asked why they were quitting , one of the five attroneys replied "Rex Tillision was right". referring to the ex secratary of state calling Trump an idiot.
Ouch if true.
 
I was listening to much of the same thing, and when the statement "He's the kind of person that if he was in the president's ear for the past couple of years, we probably wouldn't have ended up in this place," occurred, I also laughed at the sheer idiocy of the remark, as if T**** did not have a record of firing people who told him anything he did not want to hear.

You meant Trump having a record of getting other people to do his firing.
 
CNN reports Steve Bannon is urging Donnie to take the stand in his won defense. Problem is if he does not he is open to cross examnation the House Managers.

I think you mean, "if he does, he is open to cross examination....." I'd love that. He'd be incapable of keeping his mouth shut under cross examination by a good lawyer.

Now a story circulating around says that when a reporter asked why they were quitting , one of the five attroneys replied "Rex Tillision was right". referring to the ex secratary of state calling Trump an idiot a moron.
Ouch if true.

I'd love to see that on video.
 
Of course Bannon wants to make Trump into a martyr - it can only help him and his crusade for Global White Supremacy.
 
Of course Bannon wants to make Trump into a martyr - it can only help him and his crusade for Global White Supremacy.
There would be the potential for a certain poetic justice....

Trump grants a pardon to Bannon (which was a bit... shady)... Bannon encourages trump to testify (where he would likely lie)... As a result trump is charged for perjury.

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Now a story circulating around says that when a reporter asked why they were quitting , one of the five attroneys replied "Rex Tillision was right". referring to the ex secratary of state calling Trump an idiot.
Ouch if true.
One can applaud them up to a point for finally figuring it out, bit I'd have to question why it took them so long.
 
I wonder if some of their fellow lawyers informed them about Trump's habit of not paying his lawyers.
Though of course ther might be other reasons.
I have to agree that they wanted to the take the course most lawyers would take...and that is argue that Trump's speech was not an incitement to riot. You can make a argument over the semantic points there. But they would not want to atgue that the election was stolen.
I have a sick feeling Trump mighh argue the insurrection was somehow justified.
That's Trump's intent, I'm sure (as well as having his fraud fantasies "proven"), but the moron doesn't realise that arguing justification admits the offence.
 
That's Trump's intent, I'm sure (as well as having his fraud fantasies "proven"), but the moron doesn't realise that arguing justification admits the offence.
Just get him to say out loud on the stand that "The Capitol invasion was a BLM / Antifa false flag operation designed to make me look stupid!" and he is toast. That is admitting it happened at his behest, even if it truly was a false flag riot (which it is easy to show it was not with all the arrests of the rioters saying they supported and were encouraged by T****).
 
“Trump doesn’t really want a lawyer, he wants someone to play a lawyer on TV.” - @shearm on @CNN just now.

I can't help wondering if he actually believes the whole thing is a sort of TV show. He has been lying for so long that he thinks he can lie his way out of reality.

Hans
 
Perhaps a distinction without a difference, but I think the allegation was that Tillerson called him a moron, not an idiot.

Well, English is not my first language. Is there any significant difference between 'idiot' and 'moron'?

Hans
 
Unfortunately, if a sufficient number of Republican Senators don't muster the courage to vote to convict, it doesn't matter how bad Trump's defence is. This shows a serious weakness in the American system of government ... it just isn't designed to handle a president as toxic and crazy as Trump, especially when he's backed by sycophants as judges. To be fair, I wouldn't imagine many countries would do much better in this situation.

The fact is, if there was an easy way to do this, it'd be abused in some other context.
 
he can always get jim Jordan’s bitch ass up there

That would be an interesting development, Congresspersons from the House testifying as witnesses in the Senate. It would open the floodgates for all the Democrats and their staffers to testify how terrifying that day in the Capitol was.

I suppose that might happen anyway and you can bet the GOP Senators will object that how terrifying it was is not the issue, Trump's involvement is.

Or, now that I think about it, the GOP Senators will simply stipulate that it was terrifying.

Jordan is not a lawyer.
 
“Trump doesn’t really want a lawyer, he wants someone to play a lawyer on TV.” - @shearm on @CNN just now.

This is true. Impeachment isn't a legal process. Trump isn't looking for the best legal mind, he's looking for the best person to put on a show for the rubes at home. An idiot can tell that Trump is guilty. Even the MAGA maniacs know Trump incited the riot. Why bother trying to pretend Trump didn't do this?

His argument is he was trying to prevent a bigger crime. That's what the Senate should be concerned about. Not the three police officers that died. This was all for the greater good in his mind.
 

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