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The Biden Presidency

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Horatius said:
I don't think it will shock too many people here to learn that the Albertan Oil Industry is laying people off, despite having received billions in tax cuts from the Albertan government last year so as to avoid this exact problem.

Why anyone thinks that wasting more money and effort on a failing industry is beyond me.




That's right - for a brief moment, the cost of their oil was negative - they actually had to pay people to take their oil.

The price has improved since then, but it's still not profitable. The current price is about $32 per barrel, but:




Unless they've made huge strides in reducing the costs of delivering this oil, they're losing money on every barrel they sell.

This made sense 12 years ago when the price of oil jumped to about $200 a barrel, but it's insane now.
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And this is why it is so terrible that Joe* is halting the KXL!!!!

We want Canada to go broke selling us oil. All the oil. Brilliant.



ETA: *Joe Biden, not JoeMorgue. That guy is aces and would never halt a pipeline that would allow us to bankrupt Canadia one gallon at a time.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
I wish I shared Biden's optimism to reopen schools in 100 days. Unless he has a plan to radically turn around the infection rates in this country, it sounds a lot like he's setting up schools to be super spreader centers.
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Well, the teachers and staff would be vaccinated by then. Some schools will close from time to time, as the kids will definitely spread it among themselves. But we did not test the vaccine on kids, and there are so many antivaxxers, that we are stuck vaccinating only the staff.
 
Tero said:
Well, the teachers and staff would be vaccinated by then. Some schools will close from time to time, as the kids will definitely spread it among themselves. But we did not test the vaccine on kids, and there are so many antivaxxers, that we are stuck vaccinating only the staff.
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Because the states get to pick the priority it is not a certainty that teachers and staff will be vaccinated. In our state they are not in group 1A or 1B.

ETA: Also, the vaccines take time to be effective. Even if they get vaccinated in 100 days they will not have good protection until a few weeks after the second vaccination.
 
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Anyone with a memory will recall I was not a Biden fan.

Anyone with a heartbeat who reads the story below will be unable to not have a positive opinion on the man afterwards. (may have been posted, I haven't been following the thread.)

I knew the basics, but it's not possible to not have huge admiration for his ability to fight back after the most horrendous circumstances being thrust upon him.

Long read, but worth it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/o9naqcofhi/us-election-joe-biden
 
Horatius said:
I don't think it will shock too many people here to learn that the Albertan Oil Industry is laying people off, despite having received billions in tax cuts from the Albertan government last year so as to avoid this exact problem.

Why anyone thinks that wasting more money and effort on a failing industry is beyond me.




That's right - for a brief moment, the cost of their oil was negative - they actually had to pay people to take their oil.

The price has improved since then, but it's still not profitable. The current price is about $32 per barrel, but:




Unless they've made huge strides in reducing the costs of delivering this oil, they're losing money on every barrel they sell.

This made sense 12 years ago when the price of oil jumped to about $200 a barrel, but it's insane now.
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Same goes for most fracking, it was only profitable so long as oil prices were ridiculously high. Right now we don't know how much of the change in working practices caused by Covid-19 will prove to be permanent and renewable energy costs are declining year on year. The Keystone pipeline would have been a pointless boondoggle in 2021, quite sensible of President Biden.
 
Tero said:
Well, the teachers and staff would be vaccinated by then. Some schools will close from time to time, as the kids will definitely spread it among themselves. But we did not test the vaccine on kids, and there are so many antivaxxers, that we are stuck vaccinating only the staff.
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Yes, we should be opening elementary schools up ASAP. In facts its really the first thing besides healthcare that should be back to some form of normalcy. There was a story here a few weeks ago, and yeah the local press can exaggerate, but many kids have simply gone missing. They aren't getting any sort of education, and are probably just being left to their own devices. The amount of neglectful and abusive parents here is shocking. I've heard stories from social workers. Leaving small children with them all day is troubling. The benefits of them going back to school almost certainly outweigh the costs. Once teachers are vaccinated that is.
 
The Atheist said:
Anyone with a memory will recall I was not a Biden fan.

Anyone with a heartbeat who reads the story below will be unable to not have a positive opinion on the man afterwards. (may have been posted, I haven't been following the thread.)

I knew the basics, but it's not possible to not have huge admiration for his ability to fight back after the most horrendous circumstances being thrust upon him.

Long read, but worth it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/o9naqcofhi/us-election-joe-biden
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I said long ago that all you had to do to understand the difference between Trump and Biden was to look at the difference between them as fathers. That was all you needed to know to see the difference between them as men.
 
lobosrul5 said:
Yes, we should be opening elementary schools up ASAP. In facts its really the first thing besides healthcare that should be back to some form of normalcy. There was a story here a few weeks ago, and yeah the local press can exaggerate, but many kids have simply gone missing. They aren't getting any sort of education, and are probably just being left to their own devices. The amount of neglectful and abusive parents here is shocking. I've heard stories from social workers. Leaving small children with them all day is troubling. The benefits of them going back to school almost certainly outweigh the costs. Once teachers are vaccinated that is.
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For many children, their one or two main meals are provided by the schools, especially now with Covid. Many parents need their kids in school because they can't afford childcare. Teachers need to be top priority, along with healthcare workers, to receive vaccinations and get our kids back in school.
 
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets
@RepMTG
I just filed Articles of Impeachment on President @JoeBiden.
 
Remember Greene endorsed conspiracy theories that 9/11 was an inside job and that Sandy Hook was staged
Greene also endorsed the conspiracy theory that the Parkland shooting was staged
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Fair enough. I'll lay my cards out plainly then.

It will be difficult for Biden to make me happy. I am deeply suspicious of his intentions and capabilities.

There are things he could do that would make me pleased with him. Take covid for example.

If Biden actually does anything substantial to radically reduce the number of covid deaths in this country, I'll be happy. Ecstatic actually, I'd consider it an unqualified success for him, and probably a good enough thing to secure a positive legacy (assuming no other disasters like starting another war or something huge).

But that's not what I expect to happen. I expect he'll do many small, easy things, like ordering a mask mandate or deferring to "science", but nothing significant enough to really drive down deaths. They'll probably be less deaths, but the US will still be outstanding on the national stage for fatalities.
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This seems like a positive start (no pun intended)/

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-national-coronavirus-plan/index.html
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets
@RepMTG
I just filed Articles of Impeachment on President @JoeBiden.
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And (of course) fundraising off of it (Newsweek via MSN):
Shortly after her announcement, David Corn of Mother Jones posted a tweet showing Greene fundraising off of her effort to impeach Biden.

"Please - join my effort to impeach Joe Biden and donate at least $45 today," Greene wrote according to the screenshot of her fundraiser. "I am fighting for you in Congress, and I need your help to ensure we can stop the criminal Biden enterprise before it's too late."
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In case anyone is wondering what this idiot thinks he should be impeached for, when he's only been President for one day:

According to a press release posted to Twitter by Greene, the impeachment articles are for Biden's "corrupt actions involving his quid pro quo in Ukraine and his abuse of power by allowing his son, Hunter Biden, to siphon off cash from America's greatest enemies Russia and China."

"President Joe Biden is unfit to hold the office of the Presidency. His pattern of abuse of power as President [Barack] Obama's Vice President is lengthy and disturbing," Greene wrote in the statement. "President Biden is even on tape admitting to a quid pro quo with the Ukrainian government threatening to withhold $1,000,000,000 in foreign aid if they did not do his bidding. President Biden residing in the White House is a threat to national security and he must be immediately impeached."
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That's right- she wants to impeach a President for something (she thinks) he did before he was even President. Now it's possible that an argument could be made that it's perfectly Constitutional to impeach a president for ostensible crimes committed when he wasn't President yet; but I wonder if it's even occurred to her that that just makes it easier to argue that it's perfectly in line with the Constitution to impeach one for crimes committed while he was in office, but isn't President anymore.

And I'm sure that Republicans who kept whining that Trump's first impeachment was just an effort to nullify his election in 2016 will jump to tell her that she really shouldn't be trying to nullify the election of 2020, when, after all, all these allegations against Biden were already known and didn't make enough difference to defeat him then.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets
@RepMTG
I just filed Articles of Impeachment on President @JoeBiden.
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The summary on her official house.gov page is all about Hunter Biden but has no specifics. The actual articles of impeachment haven’t shown up yet.
 
Lrrr said:
I don't know the number, but I suspect the number of Keystone workers is fairly small. The bigger picture is the overall economy of the province, which will definitely take a hit. Probably not as big a hit as the price of oil seen in the last few years but still a hit. The current government refuses to diversify the economy away from fossil fuels, which I believe is a mistake. Relying completely on oil and coal is not viable long term unless Alberta can control prices (hint: it cannot).
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I think they'll be ok. The price of gasoline here went up .17 cents overnight. If that's any indication of coming oil prices, Alberta will do fine.
 
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