The Biden Presidency

[TurkeysGhost]

By gawd, you're right. Let's all just throw up our hands and go get ****-faced. At least that will prop up the "adult beverage" industry.;

So we can no longer question Biden's strategy without being nihilists?

Keeping schools open, keeping shops open, and not giving people cash aid so they can stay home from work is condemning people to die.

Other countries have shown us that it's possible to greatly reduce the spread of covid through these measures. Why isn't Biden doing that?

Are you ok with covid ripping through the country unchecked because you would prefer nobody criticize Biden?

 

[SezMe]

If Biden comes up with something to address this issue in the coming weeks/months, I will concede I was premature in this criticism

Linky.

“On his first day as President, Joe Biden will issue an Executive Order creating a federal task force to reunite these children with their parents,” the Biden campaign said.

Which he did. I look forward to your concession speech.

 

[smartcooky]

Telling another what they know or don't know is not only foolish but also presumptuous. Let's try and stick with debate rather than mind reading. One is possible and one is not.

Nope. Steve wasn't mind-reading - he simply reached a fair and reasonable conclusion from observing the level of ignorance and naivety in your posts about Canadian politics.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Linky.



Which he did. I look forward to your concession speech.

Thanks for the link.

That's a good order. I hope it's not too late for these kids to be reunited with their families.

Frankly, that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the concentration camps at the border. I'm willing to concede it's a promising sign, but more must follow.

 

[SezMe]

Just couldn't admit you were too hasty in your judgements? Couldn't just congratulate Biden for doing something that you want when you want it? Couldn't post anything positive as a sign that you want more of the same? To quote a former president, "SAD!"

 

[SezMe]

So we can no longer question Biden's strategy without being nihilists?
...

Are you ok with covid ripping through the country unchecked because you would prefer nobody criticize Biden?

Your extreme exaggeration and extrapolation of posts you don't like is tiring - and just silly. As Biden suggested, "Grow up."

 

[smartcooky]

So we can no longer question Biden's strategy without being nihilists?

Keeping schools open, keeping shops open, and not giving people cash aid so they can stay home from work is condemning people to die.

Other countries have shown us that it's possible to greatly reduce the spread of covid through these measures. Why isn't Biden doing that?
Are you ok with covid ripping through the country unchecked because you would prefer nobody criticize Biden?

Because he can't.

We were able to achieve this here because our population were prepared to go along with it - hardly anyone here thinks Covid is a hoax, and "stay at home" orders and the wearing of masks has not been politicized. We are one country with no split between "Federal" governance, and "State" governance. Our government is Federal, and the Provinces do what they are told by the central government. They have no autonomy - if the government tells the Auckland regional authorities to go into Level 4 lockdown, they will comply, immediately. But in the US, all the states have autonomy. In States with democrat Governors and Republican-led legislatures, when the Governor has issued a lockdown order, the legislature has invariably overruled him. In Michigan, a bunch or armed thugs tried to kidnap and execute the Governor because she issued lockdown orders.

If Biden tells Florida to go into lockdown, Governor De Santis will tell him to ****-off!

The Republican party is the "Party of Muh Freedoms", even if it costs half-a-million American lives to exercise those freedoms.

 

[dudalb]

Talk is cheap is what I think.

Trump's border policy was exceptionally cruel and barbaric, but a return to Obama era policies is not what I'd call a victory.

I ask you the same question. How long before it's Biden's policy and not just Trump's?

I have pretty much figured out you will not be happy with anybody in the White House who is not to the left of Karl Marx.
And I slso supsect you are still bitter that Bernie did not get the nod.....

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Because he can't.

We were able to achieve this here because our population were prepared to go along with it - hardly anyone here thinks Covid is a hoax, and "stay at home" orders and the wearing of masks has not been politicized. We are one country with no split between "Federal" governance, and "State" governance. Our government is Federal, and the Provinces do what they are told by the central government. They have no autonomy - if the government tells the Auckland regional authorities to go into Level 4 lockdown, they will comply, immediately. But in the US, all the states have autonomy. In States with democrat Governors and Republican-led legislatures, when the Governor has issued a lockdown order, the legislature has invariably overruled him. In Michigan, a bunch or armed thugs tried to kidnap and execute the Governor because she issued lockdown orders.

If Biden tells Florida to go into lockdown, Governor De Santis will tell him to ****-off!

Perhaps. But that's also true with his mask mandate, and that didn't stop him. It's a good policy, and he ordered the mask mandate even though he knows that many states will be noncompliant.

Seems like giving Biden undue credit to assume he wants to do these things and just can't.

His plan to get kids back in school in the next 100 days is barbaric. It will kill many teachers and other school staff and make schoolchildren a massive vector for the disease.

Hopefully other teachers will take their cues from the Chicago teacher's strike and shut this down, otherwise Biden's policy is going to get a lot of them killed.

 

[catsmate]

Senator Ted Cruz tweeted

@SenTedCruz
By rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement, President Biden indicates he’s more interested in the views of the citizens of Paris than in the jobs of the citizens of Pittsburgh. This agreement will do little to affect the climate and will harm the livelihoods of Americans.

I assume his followers are unaware of the Paris Peace Accord or the 1783 Treaty of Paris.....

 

[lobosrul5]

Because he can't.

We were able to achieve this here because our population were prepared to go along with it - hardly anyone here thinks Covid is a hoax, and "stay at home" orders and the wearing of masks has not been politicized. We are one country with no split between "Federal" governance, and "State" governance. Our government is Federal, and the Provinces do what they are told by the central government. They have no autonomy - if the government tells the Auckland regional authorities to go into Level 4 lockdown, they will comply, immediately. But in the US, all the states have autonomy. In States with democrat Governors and Republican-led legislatures, when the Governor has issued a lockdown order, the legislature has invariably overruled him. In Michigan, a bunch or armed thugs tried to kidnap and execute the Governor because she issued lockdown orders.

If Biden tells Florida to go into lockdown, Governor De Santis will tell him to ****-off!

The normal route for the Federal government to get the States to comply with orders not enumrated in the Constitution is to either threaten to withhold funds, or invoke the "Interstate Commerce Clause". The former is viable, the latter, probably not with the current Supreme Court. The interstate commerce clause has been very very broadly interpreted in the past. An outbreak in Florida could certainly effect commerce between States.

 

[catsmate]

I was not aware Trump's support of the Keystone project had done that.

 

[dudalb]

Well actually, Lauren, just perhaps he's not particularly keen to work with YOU.

Hans

You did not even mention the hypocrisy of a Trump supporter criticising a president for overusing Executiver Orders.
And Boebert is a nutcase anyway/

I am concerned with the overuse of EO's by Presidents...this has been going on for years and presidents of both parties have been guilty..but in Lauren's case the hypocrisy is jaw droppingly clear.

 

[catsmate]

The guy on the $100 bill who wasn't even president?
JOE BIDEN WORSHIPS MAMMON!

He was President of Pennsylvania....

 

[dudalb]

You never know, oil may become so overpriced it may again become economically sound to truck in oil sands for oil recovery and refining.
But I hope not.





Yes, it is. As a KY hillbilly I can attest you were misusing part of my culture as a direct attempt at a dig. If you're going to float a dig, at least do me the courtesy of doing it right next time.

Or maybe we can move away from fossil fuels?

 

[catsmate]

If only there was some sort of software service that could search for data.....
Horseshoe Theory

In political science and popular discourse, the horseshoe theory asserts that the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear political continuum, closely resemble one another, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together. The theory is attributed to French philosopher and writer Jean-Pierre Faye. Proponents of the theory point to a number of similarities between the far-left and the far-right, including their supposed propensity to gravitate to authoritarianism or totalitarianism. However, the horseshoe theory has also received criticism.

 

[catsmate]

Or maybe we can move away from fossil fuels?

Now that's just crazy talk.

 

[smartcooky]

Or maybe we can move away from fossil fuels?

Ultimately, we will have to... they WILL run out, or at least become so expensive to extract that doing so will be uneconomical.

 

[Dr. Keith]

You never know, oil may become so overpriced it may again become economically sound to truck in oil sands for oil recovery and refining.
But I hope not.

So, you are not aware that Keystone actually owns other pipelines that cross the border? Shocking!

Yes, it is. As a KY hillbilly I can attest you were misusing part of my culture as a direct attempt at a dig. If you're going to float a dig, at least do me the courtesy of doing it right next time.

Hillbillies thinking they represent the south is just so precious.

 

[Paul2]

Kids in cages was a major rallying cry of not just leftists, but liberals, during the Trump years.

Does it not matter anymore? What changed?

Kids in cages shouldn't have been the issue, although it was useful to draw attention to the real issue, which was the separation of kids from parents without a plan to re-unite them, along with all the other perfidies of Trump's immigration system.

Obama, as conservatives were quick to point out, also held kids in cages, but only when necessary, and they had a reunification plan, IIRC.