Split Thread A second impeachment

alfaniner said:
I wonder if The PDJT will have to actually testify this time? I know he didn't the first time around. If he has to swear to tell the truth, he's done for.
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"I swear to tell the t-t-r-r-u ... excuse me, what is this word?"
 
Norman Alexander said:
Only crooks invoke the Fifth.

Or so I've been told.
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Who the hell is even representing him at this point? Maybe Sidney, or someone equally insane.

But then, as long as Trump has his 12 percent or whatever there will be mentally ill Americans donating their disability checks.
 
Minoosh said:
Who the hell is even representing him at this point? Maybe Sidney, or someone equally insane.

But then, as long as Trump has his 12 percent or whatever there will be mentally ill Americans donating their disability checks.
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There you have it. That's all he is in this for. As soon as this dries up or gets cut off, he will forget this ever happened and try to be off to his next grifty adventure.
 
Minoosh said:
Who the hell is even representing him at this point?
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He should represent himself. I am sure he knows more about the law than anyone else. I'll bet he's the most lawyerly legal lawyer anyone has ever heard of. Alan Dershowitz said to him, "Sir, how do you know so much about the law? More than me!" He had an uncle who was a lawyer for longer than anyone else, in New York Law School of Law, etc...
 
I've heard Lionel Hutz is in negotiations with Trump but he's concerned his reputation may take a hit if he represents the ex-prez.
 
Looks like turtle face McConnell is having second thoughts about his own role in the senate impeachment proceedings. But then, I guess this was to be expected.
 
Susheel said:
Looks like turtle face McConnell is having second thoughts about his own role in the senate impeachment proceedings. But then, I guess this was to be expected.
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What makes you think that? Because he won't agree to start the impeachment proceedings before next week?

I think it was always going to be that way. Despite any resentment Moscow Mitch might have towards Trump, his main interest is gaining power. Its hard to know exactly what his long-term plan is, but to me it makes sense that he wants to delay the senate proceedings so that it interferes with Biden's attempts to get cabinet members confirmed. Or maybe he thinks he can somehow 'embarrass' the democrats because people might accuse them of wasting time impeaching someone who is no longer in power.
 
Segnosaur said:
What makes you think that? Because he won't agree to start the impeachment proceedings before next week?

I think it was always going to be that way. Despite any resentment Moscow Mitch might have towards Trump, his main interest is gaining power. Its hard to know exactly what his long-term plan is, but to me it makes sense that he wants to delay the senate proceedings so that it interferes with Biden's attempts to get cabinet members confirmed. Or maybe he thinks he can somehow 'embarrass' the democrats because people might accuse them of wasting time impeaching someone who is no longer in power.
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To poke at one of his main strategies in general - it's to make Democrats look weak and ineffective, frequently with the added bonus of making Republicans look powerful because they can successfully stop the Democrats. That's also a part of a larger strategy of sabotaging trust in the government in general, which tends be seen as significantly benefiting Republican politicians and their rich and powerful right-wing backers. It's toxic, but it looks like it's been effective.

With that in mind, I would have been quite shocked if McConnell didn't delay it. And am glad that it was sent to the Senate immediately, rather than waiting until after the first 100 days to prevent that BS.
 
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Minoosh said:
Who the hell is even representing him at this point? Maybe Sidney, or someone equally insane.

But then, as long as Trump has his 12 percent or whatever there will be mentally ill Americans donating their disability checks.
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DOes not matter how much money Trump has;his reputation for stiffing his lawyers and cheating them out of their fees guarantees no really good lawyer will represent hivm. Good Lawyers like to be paid.
And Trump's stiffing of Giuliani just confrimed his reputation in that regard.
 
I still stay waiting until the new Senate is seated makes more sense as it will take only 17 GOP senators instead of 19 to vote to convict.
 
Stacyhs said:
I still stay waiting until the new Senate is seated makes more sense as it will take only 17 GOP senators instead of 19 to vote to convict.
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Yeah...but I bet there will be a new narrative then.
"He is already out."
"You can't impeach someone who is no longer in office."
"Now you libtards are just being vindictive."

What aspects of the Republican behavior so far has ever suggested to you that the Republicans will act in good faith?
 
Stacyhs said:
I still stay waiting until the new Senate is seated makes more sense as it will take only 17 GOP senators instead of 19 to vote to convict.
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I remain distinctly pessimistic that anywhere close to 17 of the GOP senators will vote to convict, no matter how obviously Trump's guilt could be demonstrated and the need to impeach for the good of the country demonstrated, even with Trump no longer the President. 4-5 is more likely of an at best number, I think. That could possibly change based on the totality of criminal charges that could be brought against him, though.
 
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