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Split Thread A second impeachment

Why do so many Republicans think calling/equating an impeachment because the President launched a goddamn coup with being "cancelled" on Twitter so goddamn bloody clever?
 
Again the idea the Senators can just... like not vote is already stupid to me. I mean that's literally your job.

The idea that they can't do it during an impeachment is worse.

When you're a member of Congress and the decision is on this level, you shouldn't get to stay in the corner.
 
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Segnosaur said:
- While Trump did use the word 'peaceful' at the rally, he also used the phrase 'fight'... multiple times. While the term 'fight' can be used metaphorically, it is still a rather... loaded term
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To be honest, especially for an outsider, the US language or rhetoric often sounds very martial.
 
Jim Jordan, one of Trump's most fervent House supporters, is speaking saying it is all a Democratic plot to get Trump and using the Cancel Culture Right Wing B.S.
Heart Warming to see such loyalty to Dear Leader.
 
dudalb said:
Jim Jordan, one of Trump's most fervent House supporters, is speaking saying it is all a Democratic plot to get Trump and using the Cancel Culture Right Wing B.S.
Heart Warming to see such loyalty to Dear Leader.
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Yeah, and so much healing from him. Does anyone already feel more healthy?
 
JoeMorgue said:
Again the idea the Senators can just... like not vote is already stupid to me. I mean that's literally your job.

The idea that they can't do it during an impeachment is worse.

When you're a member of Congress and the decision is on this level, you shouldn't get to stay in the corner.
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And they clearly are not allowed to get sick or have any kind of family emergency. Seriously the only way that it could work would be to allow them to designate proxies to vote for them if they can't make it.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Again the idea the Senators can just... like not vote is already stupid to me. I mean that's literally your job.

The idea that they can't do it during an impeachment is worse.

When you're a member of Congress and the decision is on this level, you shouldn't get to stay in the corner.
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Alas, we're at a point with these people that just getting them to stop making things worse is an improvement.
 
dudalb said:
Jim Jordan, one of Trump's most fervent House supporters, is speaking saying it is all a Democratic plot to get Trump and using the Cancel Culture Right Wing B.S.
Heart Warming to see such loyalty to Dear Leader.
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Would you want to be Jim Jordan's wife at this point? I mean, has he ever been this loyal to her?
 
turingtest said:
That's the key word right there. To me, as I've said, for purposes of impeachment (a political standard different from a legal one), it doesn't even matter that Trump may not have intended the mob to act as they did if the outcome was one that any reasonable person would have foreseen, taking into account a full context. Trump has always been so focused on the adulation he receives from rallies that he gives no thought at all to anything else- and that is just not a reasonable stance for someone in his position to take.

Also (and as I've also said), any politician (looking at you, Lindsey Graham) who thinks that the rioters should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and acknowledges that Trump's actions and words were part of the problem that led them to riot needs to explain why the rioters need to pay the fullest price possible and Trump gets a discount. "Healing" isn't an answer to that question, it's an avoidance of it.
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Exactly.

Did he deliberately incite the mob, or was he so stupid and self absorbed that he didn't realize that he would incite the mob?

Either way, he should be removed, even though there's only a week left in his term.


Early on in this thread I didn't think impeachment was a good idea. I'm still not sure it's a good idea, but it's the right thing to do. If it's not a good idea, that's because of political implications, and I've decided I don't give a hoot about political implications. When so many people believe Trump's lies about democracy in Amrica, we are in serious trouble. Impeaching the bum won't make things any worse, and it has the chance to make things better.

I also see that Democratic leadership has said the article will be transferred immediately to the Senate. Over the weekend there was talk about withholding it. I was against that, so I'm glad to see that idea was shot down.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And they clearly are not allowed to get sick or have any kind of family emergency.
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Yeah because that's the same thing as just going "Nope don't feel like voting on this one."

Tulsi Gabbard just didn't show up to work for 37.8% of votes in 2019. She doesn't get that many "sick days."
 
At this stage I'm expecting, "Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, the President was in no way inciting a disturbance in his speech of 6 January 2020. What he did was give veiled instructions to a crowd that had been prepared far enough in advance to prepare a mobile gallows. Since his words were obviously not intended to bring incite persons to action, but rather to give them the go ahead to carry out previously agreed to courses of action, his words do not meet the strict definition of the term and you must acquit."
 
Rep. Boebert is insane. She's comparing apples and oranges. None of those calls to violence against Trump she quotes from the "hypocritical left" were from members of Congress, they were from private citizens. What stupid woman.

HAPPY IMPEACHMENT V2 DAY!
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yeah because that's the same thing as just going "Nope don't feel like voting on this one."

Tulsi Gabbard just didn't show up to work for 37.8% of votes in 2019. She doesn't get that many "sick days."
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Oh that is a serious issue but they also need to be able to function with less than a full house.
 
"There is no excuse for President Trump's actions. Others, including myself, are responsible for not speaking out sooner — before the President misinformed and inflamed a violent mob." - Republican Rep. Dan Newhouse.

Good. More of you need to say that.
 
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