Capitol assault was orchestrated by ANTIFA

Jack by the hedge said:
Who do you mean; the rioters or antifa? And whose speech was suppressed? And "does bad things" isn't a very useful definition of fascist anyway.
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I think he's most likely talking about Twitter, Apple and Amazon. They're kicking Trump and his CHUDs off their platforms, so in his mind they're suppressing their freedom of speech. He doesn't realize that those privately owned platforms can decide who can and can't use them, without amounting to a violation of their free speech rights. If someone goes into a restaurant and makes a mess, harasses other patrons and damages the furniture, if the owner tells him he's not welcome back, he isn't suppressing his right to food.
 
Bubba said:
One must never overlook the possibility of agent provocateure.

No joke.
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No joke. That's certainly fair. And just because none have actually been found so far (all those reactively identified by some Trumper websites as "antifa" have proven not to be) doesn't mean none were there.

But here's the problem with that. Nobody held a gun to Trump supporters' heads and made them follow any handful of "provocateurs". No one or two people attacking the police made the entire crowd turn on the police en masse. Nobody forced them into the Capitol Building, and nobody forced them to chance "Hang Mike Pence" while they were doing it.
 
Maybe Agents Provocouture... the latest in infiltrator fashions.
 
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Jack by the hedge said:
Fascist antifascists. Schrödinger's rioter. At first they think they're in a super position but then they collapse and you can see exactly what they are.
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I read a comic decades ago in which the main character was visiting a stereotypical Banana Republic. At one point, a pair of armed guerillas charged out of the jungle to attack government troops.

"Pig insurgents!!"
"Resurgents."
"What?"
"They were the insurgents last week. This week we're the insurgents and they're the resurgents."
"Oh. Pig resurgents!!"
 
Checkmite said:
No joke. That's certainly fair. And just because none have actually been found so far (all those reactively identified by some Trumper websites as "antifa" have proven not to be) doesn't mean none were there.

But here's the problem with that. Nobody held a gun to Trump supporters' heads and made them follow any handful of "provocateurs". No one or two people attacking the police made the entire crowd turn on the police en masse. Nobody forced them into the Capitol Building, and nobody forced them to chance "Hang Mike Pence" while they were doing it.
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Agreed.


There are reasons to suspect Antifa agents...the guy smashing the window (where the women got shot) was also filmed agitating the crowd immediately after, and then it looks like he goes to his backpack a few steps away and changes clothes, maybe. But thats not clear.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/video...ed-actions-interview-with-masako_3652783.html
 
Armitage72 said:
I read a comic decades ago in which the main character was visiting a stereotypical Banana Republic. At one point, a pair of armed guerrillas charged out of the jungle to attack government troops.

"Pig insurgents!!"
"Resurgents."
"What?"
"They were the insurgents last week. This week we're the insurgents and they're the resurgents."
"Oh. Pig resurgents!!"
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Tintin and the Picaros ?
 
Armitage72 said:
I read a comic decades ago in which the main character was visiting a stereotypical Banana Republic. At one point, a pair of armed guerillas charged out of the jungle to attack government troops.

"Pig insurgents!!"
"Resurgents."
"What?"
"They were the insurgents last week. This week we're the insurgents and they're the resurgents."
"Oh. Pig resurgents!!"
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Is it just me or should the reverse of insurgents be exsurgents?

It doesn't sound like Tintin and the Picaros. Alcazar and his picaros had been in the jungle much longer than a week.
 
Armitage72 said:
I read a comic decades ago in which the main character was visiting a stereotypical Banana Republic. At one point, a pair of armed guerillas charged out of the jungle to attack government troops.

"Pig insurgents!!"
"Resurgents."
"What?"
"They were the insurgents last week. This week we're the insurgents and they're the resurgents."
"Oh. Pig resurgents!!"
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Positively Hegelian...
 
Bubba said:
One must never overlook the possibility of agent provocateure.

No joke.
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The question is, are you Trump supporter, an Antifa agent provocateur pretending to be a Trump supporter, or a police infiltrator pretending to be an Antifa agent provocateur pretending to be a Trump supporter?
 
Mojo said:
The question is, are you Trump supporter, an Antifa agent provocateur pretending to be a Trump supporter, or a police infiltrator pretending to be an Antifa agent provocateur pretending to be a Trump supporter?
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We can't rule out "Russian disinformation agent pretending to be a police infiltrator pretending to be an Antifa agent provocateur pretending to be a Trump supporter" at this stage.

Dave
 
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