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Split Thread A second impeachment

The Atheist said:
Do you not even understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats?
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Meanwhile, this:

bolding mine

I'm going to take a wild guess their insight is a little better than some unknown people on an internet forum.
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You think? I'm not so sure.

I can see their point, but people are also emboldened when they are able to get away with things. More important in my mind than punishment is exposing him as the incompetent awful man he is.

Trump is not a young man. He's 74 and a half. This isn't Hitler who was sentenced to 5 years in Prison but only served 9 months. Hitler was arrested for Treason when he was 34 and out before he was 36 and right back at it.

Trump and Trumpism must be destroyed.
 
acbytesla said:
I can see their point, but people are also emboldened when they are able to get away with things.
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Trump is irrelevant - it's the people who voted for him that matter, and despite me being happy to say out loud that all Trump/Republican voters are ignorant scum, it's not actually true. Some of them are decent people - I don't believe the split in USA is 50-50; I'd tend to think 2/3 of Americans are fine people, the other side are *****.

acbytesla said:
More important in my mind than punishment is exposing him as the incompetent awful man he is.
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I'm pretty sure that's not news.

acbytesla said:
Trump and Trumpism must be destroyed.
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I'm also pretty sure he's done that all on his own.

How about Newt Gingrich as a source?

While the piece is less than something you scrape off your shoes, even Newt manages to stick a telling piece in:

At any given moment, somewhere between 20% and 50% of the Republican Party is eager to sell out. They’ll be happy with a pat on the head and an invitation to a cocktail party from left-wing elites. That way, they can be accepted as "mature statesmen."

In fact, some Republicans are joining the insane calls by Democrats and the media to invoke the 25th Amendment to oust a man who received 74 million votes and has already said he’s leaving the White House in just a few days.
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Those people Gingrich talks about "selling out" are the voters I mean. If you can give them reasons to vote Democrat, many will.

Impeaching Trump, creating sympathy for the fat ****, is not the way to go about it.
 
dejudge said:
Your opinion about the pandemic is of no use right now.

We know that the Democrats impeached Trump in a partisan vote and still won the Presidency and control of the Senate so the claim than a second impeachment would hurt the Democrats cannot be shown to be true.
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Whereas not acting will almost certainly hurt the Democrats given the current atmosphere. You cannot ignore sending a mob to break into the Capitol to try to stop a legislative action.
 
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angrysoba said:
Irrelevant, Bob. Remember, the government isn’t in the business of utilitarianism. I am shocked to see you suggest it is. It is in the business of fidelity to the constitution, though, right? Impeachment.
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There is a lot of talk in this thread of, "if not x then y." Just trying to figure out who thinks that is relevant and who does not.
 
Paul2 said:
This "heal the division" is absolute bullcrap, and we just crossed the line where we're gonna pretend differently. **** that. The ones who want to heal the division are the ones who fomented it. Give. Me. A. Break.
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Understatement of the year. Trumpanzees and their enablers have no shame. They don't even know what that means.
 
The Atheist said:
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Buck argued that any kind of punishment for Trump - be it impeachment or prosecution or merely a censure by Congress - could accrue to his political benefit, a point Miller made as well.
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I'm going to take a wild guess their insight is a little better than some unknown people on an internet forum.
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Their "insight" is nothing more than the same line they always give when the boot is the one coming down on them, "you don't want to do that, it will make you look mean" or whatever. :rolleyes:

It's a predictable GOP propaganda ploy and unfortunately it has been successful time and time again. Time to recognize it for what it is.
 
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The Atheist said:
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How about Newt Gingrich as a source?

While the piece is less than something you scrape off your shoes, even Newt manages to stick a telling piece in:

Those people Gingrich talks about "selling out" are the voters I mean. If you can give them reasons to vote Democrat, many will.

Impeaching Trump, creating sympathy for the fat ****, is not the way to go about it.
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What happened over the last couple months and especially the last week negate some of those 74 million votes. Obviously many of those votes came from diehard Trump fans. Nothing the Democrats do, impeach or any version of ridding ourselves of Trump, is going to affect their beliefs one bit. It's just as likely doing nothing will embolden them.

Gingrich is a washed-up politician still trying to insert himself into current events so he can drive up book sales.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Their "insight" is nothing more than the same line they always give when the boot is the one coming down on them, "you don't want to do that, it will make you look mean" or whatever. :rolleyes:

It's a predictable GOP propaganda ploy and unfortunately it has been successful time and time again. Time to recognize it for what it is.
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Then they say the Dems are weak
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
It's just as likely doing nothing will embolden them.
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It is not "just a likely". It is absolute certainty.

Behavioral scientists says lack of expected (or any for that matter) punishment is treated as reward.

Opinions like "let them get away with it or else!" are extremely foolish at best.
 
Bernie Sanders
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Some people ask: Why would you impeach and convict a president who has only a few days left in office? The answer: Precedent. It must be made clear that no president, now or in the future, can lead an insurrection against the U.S. government.
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A bloody attempted coup was just experienced by the entire Legislative branch. That cannot be encouraged by offering zero consequences.
 
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The Atheist said:
Those people Gingrich talks about "selling out" are the voters I mean. If you can give them reasons to vote Democrat, many will.

Impeaching Trump, creating sympathy for the fat ****, is not the way to go about it.
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No, Gingrich is not referring to the voters. The clue is "mature statesmen." Voters aren't statesmen. Politicians are.
 
Latest report is that the House of Representatives will impeach Donald J Trump this week. but likely delay sending articles of Impeachment to the United States Senate.

This according to a letter Speaker Pelosi sent out in the last hour.
 
I know the internet has created this mythology where "I'll argue any stupid contrarian position because I'd rather defend an immoral absurdity then live in a world where everyone agrees on anything" is a noble position, but it's also the biggest cylinder in the engine that drove us to the post-fact world.

"When the President orders an angry mob to storm the Capitol and 5 people die CONSEQUENCES SHOULD OCCUR" was firmly established in the "No **** Sherlock Act of Nineteen Hundred And Always."
 
acbytesla said:
Latest report is that the House of Representatives will impeach Donald J Trump this week. but likely delay sending articles of Impeachment to the United States Senate.

This according to a letter Speaker Pelosi sent out in the last hour.
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Then it's a farce. Another political dog and pony show.
 
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