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Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

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CaptainHowdy said:
There you go again. Assuming criminal behavior from an election worker and ridiculing the notion that an election worker engaged in fraud would possibly crack under interrogation. In your mind is it possible that an election worker is not engaged in fraud and can prove it? Or that maybe an election worker isn't involved in fraud but simply made an error?

Although it's easy to understand why you wouldn't want any of the evidence adjudicated, what with your mindset and all.
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The GBI and GA state election investigators have investigated this! https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics...urveillance-video/T5M3PYIBYFHFFOD3CIB2ULDVDE/
 
Roger Ramjets said:
Of course not. It's also about brown people, and poor people, and communists liberals of all stripes. The one thing it's not about? Voter fraud.

This election is the most secure and the most scrutinized in our history. No significant voter fraud occurred. It is a non-issue. We all know this, so any anybody who purports to be concerned about 'voter fraud' is actually thinking of something else.
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Electoral fraud, on the other hand... To borrow a quote from wikipedia,

Electoral fraud, sometimes referred to as election fraud, election manipulation, voter fraud or vote rigging, involves illegal interference with the process of an election, either by increasing the vote share of a favored candidate, depressing the vote share of rival candidates, or both.[1] It differs from but often goes hand-in-hand with voter suppression.
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The Republican party in states like Georgia has gone to extensive lengths to engage in suppressing the Democratic vote. Hundreds of thousands of wrongfully purged voters, with disproportionate effects on Democrats leaning groups is not a negligible issue. Even more so if they were purged while ignoring checks required by law.

CaptainHowdy said:
There you go again. Assuming criminal behavior from an election worker and ridiculing the notion that an election worker engaged in fraud would possibly crack under interrogation. In your mind is it possible that an election worker is not engaged in fraud and can prove it? Or that maybe an election worker isn't involved in fraud but simply made an error?
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This is a truly puzzling line of argument. Puzzling in the sense of why you would think that it was in any way a valid line of argument. I had held myself back before, but I really am curious about why you would think such. Your whole argument here seems to rest on assuming inane premises about the person you are responding to and what they actually said, after all.

CaptainHowdy said:
Although it's easy to understand why you wouldn't want any of the evidence adjudicated, what with your mindset and all.
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To poke in, myself, the thing about the kind of accusations in question is that there needs to be real basis for investigation. It's certainly true that not everyone may agree that something is legitimate cause for further investigation, of course, but a... very basic rule of thumb is that flights of fancy generally are not legitimate cause. Adding in further context about the dishonest and unprincipled behavior of the GOP for a number of years now, especially when it comes to projecting their faults and plans onto others without any evidence... and it's pretty much become a situation where "GOP cries thief" can reasonably be dismissed out of hand because of the sheer volume of times that the GOP has cried thief not just dishonestly, but as part of overarching tactics to get away with stealing themselves and defaming the victims in the process.
 
CaptainHowdy said:
There you go again. Assuming criminal behavior from an election worker and ridiculing the notion that an election worker engaged in fraud would possibly crack under interrogation. In your mind is it possible that an election worker is not engaged in fraud and can prove it? Or that maybe an election worker isn't involved in fraud but simply made an error?

Although it's easy to understand why you wouldn't want any of the evidence adjudicated, what with your mindset and all.
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Would you like me to explain the word 'if' to you? You are clearly still struggling with it.

Aridas said:
This is a truly puzzling line of argument. Puzzling in the sense of why you would think that it was in any way a valid line of argument. I had held myself back before, but I really am curious about why you would think such. Your whole argument here seems to rest on assuming inane premises about the person you are responding to and what they actually said, after all.
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I agree. It's somewhere between a strawman and arguing with the voices in his head.
 
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If Vice President @Mike_Pence comes through for us, we will win the Presidency. Many States want to decertify the mistake they made in certifying incorrect & even fraudulent numbers in a process NOT approved by their State Legislatures (which it must be). Mike can send it back!
 
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Get smart Republicans. FIGHT!
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Will Chamberlain
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Republicans confirmed Justice Barrett, which they had the clear, lawful right to do, and in response Chuck Schumer said "EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE NOW."
If that's the case, why shouldn't Republican legislators go to the wall for the President?

Dan Scavino
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WOW! We hear you from the West Wing—THANK YOU

Christina Bobb
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Pennsylvania is going to Trump. The legislators have spoken.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump tweets

Get smart Republicans. FIGHT!
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Will Chamberlain
@willchamberlain
Republicans confirmed Justice Barrett, which they had the clear, lawful right to do, and in response Chuck Schumer said "EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE NOW."
If that's the case, why shouldn't Republican legislators go to the wall for the President?

Dan Scavino
@DanScavino
WOW! We hear you from the West Wing—THANK YOU

Christina Bobb
@christina_bobb
Pennsylvania is going to Trump. The legislators have spoken.
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Prediction: These tweets will rapidly age.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

If Vice President @Mike_Pence comes through for us, we will win the Presidency. Many States want to decertify the mistake they made in certifying incorrect & even fraudulent numbers in a process NOT approved by their State Legislatures (which it must be). Mike can send it back!
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Norman Alexander said:
No he can't.
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You would think that somebody would have told this to Trump by now (and in fact, ISTR that Pence has), so it's depressing enough that he keeps saying it. What's really depressing is that we have had, for four years, a President who ever needed to be told this to begin with- it's one thing for your average CTist/TrumpHumper to have such a loose grip on how any of this works, but when it's the President...
 
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Trump Tweets

Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd is so happy with the fake voter tabulation process that he can’t even get the words out straight. Sad to watch!

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR COUNTRY, NEEDS THE PRESIDENCY MORE THAN EVER BEFORE - THE POWER OF THE VETO. STAY STRONG!
 
Trump Tweets

States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!
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I can almost see Trump tweeting that whilst Pence is in the same room....
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!
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Right now he appears to be trying to get elected Emperor of Terra. He's certainly not in this universe any more.

Dave
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!
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If you live in DC, lock your doors tonight. All hell is about to break loose.
 
CaptainHowdy said:
There you go again. Assuming criminal behavior from an election worker and ridiculing the notion that an election worker engaged in fraud would possibly crack under interrogation. In your mind is it possible that an election worker is not engaged in fraud and can prove it? Or that maybe an election worker isn't involved in fraud but simply made an error?

Although it's easy to understand why you wouldn't want any of the evidence adjudicated, what with your mindset and all.
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There's no point in treating your arguments with respect. Ridicule and sarcasm are all your arguments rate. You will always make up another lie about fraud because you don't really care about fraud. You will not stop making up silly little reasons why the votes of people you think should have been disenfranchised and decided not to be should not be counted. That is all this about.

The election wasn't stolen; it was taken from you.
 
Trump Tweets

Even Mexico uses Voter I.D.

The States want to redo their votes. They found out they voted on a FRAUD. Legislatures never approved. Let them do it. BE STRONG!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Even Mexico uses Voter I.D.
The States want to redo their votes. They found out they voted on a FRAUD. Legislatures never approved. Let them do it. BE STRONG!
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And Georgia (just to take one) doesn't? Well, they do. (Ballotpedia)

He is really flailing now...

ETA- and how many states have actually said they "want to redo their votes"? No, a few isolated sore-loser fruitcakes living in the states don't really count as "the States."
 
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