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"I am totes neutral, but can you explain this two seconds out of hundreds of hours of election footage where it appears someone hands something to someone else? The narrator of the video I found it on declared that it has the actual election results the Trump ninjas found in Germany, but he was very even handed in the video and also said there was a slight chance it was the cure for COVID-19 or the Holy Grail."
 
kookbreaker said:
"I am totes neutral, but can you explain this two seconds out of hundreds of hours of election footage where it appears someone hands something to someone else? The narrator of the video I found it on declared that it has the actual election results the Trump ninjas found in Germany, but he was very even handed in the video and also said there was a slight chance it was the cure for COVID-19 or the Holy Grail."
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And that this thing I'm asking questions about happened in a place where the majority of voters aren't white?
 
Stee said:
How you concluded that based on an interested enquiry into a video link says a lot about you rather than me.
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You seem to think you are first ever poster here that "innocently" just ask question about some random video.

No one will assume goodwill, sincerity or honesty in your questions.
 
We're just a few steps away from the inevitable "true skeptics would believe me a random YouTuber when I they make **** up."
 
Stee, at best you asked the right question for a alt right crew to try to convince you of something. And it appears they did.

Describe what was passed. A house key? The car keys? Money? Can you even say what it is? Turn the sound off and rewatch the video a few times rethinking what you might be watching.

We have a one hour tape of chump trying to tell the guy in Georgia to fix the vote and flip the state. Is that just slightly better evidence of whom is absolutely desperate to cheat at any cost?
 
eerok said:
The Proud Boys have stated they intend to dress as Antifa for protests on 6 January.
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I heard that antifa planned to wear MAGA hats on Jan 6. This could be interesting.


Who knows what other crap they've done?
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There was a rumor going around Portland or Seattle that the Poor Boys had put MAGA bumper stickers on vehicles belonging to antifa that were parked on the street which were then vandalized by other antifa. Sounds like BS to me but that would be hilarious if it were true.
 
Stee said:
Why are you deliberately ignoring the basis of my post? Are you saying the video is fabricated? Can you cut the weirdness and be direct with me Darat?

Why does it matter how I 'know about it' ... ? Have you not bothered to watch it either? Do you also not see what it shows? I am pretty stunned right now honestly. What do you think this video shows? If you are suggesting that a video that clearly shows something being passed between people at a vote count facility by sleight of hand and someone itching their nose I don't know what else to say to you!
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I did break my usual no video because the clip was so short.

I saw a video that showed nothing at all interesting: watching someone get up from their desk and walk away with someone else is really not interesting in my world.

So again I’ll ask what was interesting?
 
8enotto said:
We have a one hour tape of chump trying to tell the guy in Georgia to fix the vote and flip the state. Is that just slightly better evidence of whom is absolutely desperate to cheat at any cost?
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Indeed.

Trump is getting desperate, slipping into full-on panic mode with only 16 days to go, as he realizes his fantasy of overturning the election result just isn't going to happen, and at the same time, his legal jeopardy is fast approaching.

Watching him fall apart is the best fun I've had on the internet in years; watching his sycophantic supporters twisting themselves into pretzels and falling over themselves to make excuses for him runs a close second.
 
CaptainHowdy said:
I heard that antifa planned to wear MAGA hats on Jan 6. This could be interesting.
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Who says they haven't already. Have you seen Lin Wood at all?

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On Wednesday evening, what was left of Donald Trump’s reelection campaign began insinuating that an attorney striving to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 win in Georgia could, in fact, be a Democratic plant working against the Republican Party and the president.
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https://pressfrom.info/au/news/worl...res-war-on-fool-trumpist-lawyer-lin-wood.html



There was a rumor going around Portland or Seattle that the Poor Boys had put MAGA bumper stickers on vehicles belonging to antifa that were parked on the street which were then vandalized by other antifa. Sounds like BS to me but that would be hilarious if it were true.
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Oh, then it's obviously viable.
 
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eerok said:
Yeah, maybe it was Raffensperger. I wish there were more Republicans like him -- he actually has principles.
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Minor correction - looks like he has principles in light of him refusing to do the absurdities demanded of him that he wouldn't be able to get away with doing anyways. By the look of it, he and plenty of other Georgia Republicans are engaging in about as much unprincipled behavior as they think they can get away with, seemingly up to and including lying to judges to prevent hundreds of thousands of people they wrongfully removed from the voting rolls from having their right to vote restored to them before the runoffs. Georgia Republicans pointedly closing the voting sites in blacker areas of Cobb County and leaving the whiter area ones is also very unprincipled.
 
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Minor correction - looks like he has principles in light of him refusing to do the absurdities demanded of him that he wouldn't be able to get away with doing anyways. By the look of it, he and plenty of other Georgia Republicans are engaging in about as much unprincipled behavior as they think they can get away with, seemingly up to and including lying to judges to prevent hundreds of thousands of people they wrongfully removed from the voting rolls from having their right to vote restored to them before the runoffs. Georgia Republicans pointedly closing the voting sites in blacker areas of Cobb County and leaving the whiter area ones is also very unprincipled.
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At least he didn't accede to Trump's demands. The way things are now, anyone who isn't willing to flap their hands crazily in support of Trump's stupid election fantasy looks downright attractive. It's true that the right is still damn sketchy, though.
 
CaptainHowdy said:
You keeping bringing up black people here as if blacks qua blacks have any relevance. They don't. This is about voter fraud.
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There was no voter fraud worth mentioning in the 2020 election. There's certainly a long-standing GOP tradition to disenfranchise black voters, though, and they've been using false claims of voter fraud to push this agenda. For example, many of the "problematic" counties had large black populations.
 
Stee said:
Did you even watch the video, if you have watched that and cannot see them passing something between them you are deliberately being blind to it. .
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I haven't watched it. Maybe that gives an opportunity for an experiment of sorts.

Tell me at what point in the video the "pass" is seen, and I'll give my interpretation. I'll watch it first with the sound turned off, so any narration doesn't influence me, and then again with the narration.

It's not a great experiment, because I have already been primed to expect something, but we do what we can.
 
Stee said:
Do you also not see what it shows? I am pretty stunned right now honestly. What do you think this video shows?
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I saw that the whole video was only four minutes long, so I watched it. The first time, I watched it without audio.


It clearly shows that she is standing up, and then walks off with him. As she stands and turns, she puts her hand on the back of the chair for support. They then walk off together.



So the narrator would have us believe that just before they walked off together, she slipped something into his pocket, after carefully making sure that no one would see it......before they walk off together.
 
Meadmaker said:
I saw that the whole video was only four minutes long, so I watched it. The first time, I watched it without audio.


It clearly shows that she is standing up, and then walks off with him. As she stands and turns, she puts her hand on the back of the chair for support. They then walk off together.



So the narrator would have us believe that just before they walked off together, she slipped something into his pocket, after carefully making sure that no one would see it......before they walk off together.
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I'm not sure what video you watched. Here is a video without narration. The hand off is at 1:50.

 
eerok said:
There was no voter fraud worth mentioning in the 2020 election. There's certainly a long-standing GOP tradition to disenfranchise black voters, though, and they've been using false claims of voter fraud to push this agenda. For example, many of the "problematic" counties had large black populations.
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Highlighting mine.

And yes, problematic should be in super quotes to show what nonsense it is.

The GOP bitches about Dominion machines, but Philly and Pittsburgh didn't use Dominion in PA. But Trump won in 12 of the 14 counties where they were used. Why no super video analysis of every move an elector made in those counties? Hmmm?

When you pull up videos from election conspiracy nutters it is *always* based on one of the prominent Urban counties in the swing states. No one is hard scanning Luzerne county.

Fact is, while cities have had voting issues in the past, so did smaller towns & counties. But cities get more media attention due to the larger populations and the GOP wants the assumption with mostly minority populated cities to be that they have default corrupt elections no matter their complete lack of evidence. Just remember the whole 'barrackofraudo' nonsense back in 2012 where the GOP authoritarians just flat stated that there was ballot stuffing because of course there was. Just take their word for it.

Trump and the GOP have been cheating for years. Reduced ballot locations, voter roll purges, modern versions of poll taxes, and much more. But this time their efforts weren't enough. So the GOP cheaters do what cheaters always do when they lose: accuse the other side of cheating.

Trump has now been revealed to have tried to get fake votes in Georgia to let him win. Yet he tweets all the time about how the Democrats cheated when he's the one caught with aces up his sleeve (aces from a completely different deck with a different card backing, but that's just rank Trump clumsiness).
 
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