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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 26

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eerok said:
I remember reading an observation by Antonio Banderas, who was born in Spain, that he was not considered white in America.
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The "W" in "WASP" is redundant - Anglo-Saxon and Protestant define White. Even Catholic Irish fail the Teuton Test, as do Mediterraneans generally. I think any Klansmen here will back me up on that.
 
Down in Andalusía you see quite a bit of Moorish genetic influence.

ETA: Only place in Spain I've ever seen.
 
acbytesla said:
I mean on January 6th with this **** show the GOP is planning.
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My thoughts on that matter are, after the idiots go though with this farce and see it isn't going anywhere, that people start coming down hard on them with the responsibility they all have for hundreds of thousands of COVID deaths.
 
Horatius said:
But it is a political talking point, so long as they won't admit their billion- and trillion-dollar tax cuts for the rich and corporations are part of the problem, which they've denied for decades now.

I'm all for having a serious discussion of the debt and deficit, but it's become clear that the Republicans simply aren't interested in that. Nothing they've done for the last 40 years suggests that they actually intend to do anything other than use the debt as a political talking point.
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YES! :thumbsup:
 
dudalb said:
Lin Wood, whose elevator most defnently does not got up to the top floor, is demanding that Pence be executed for treason.
This is the kind of attonrey that Trump was reduced to hiring....
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Credit where it's due, Lin Wood found something to say that was so stupid, I had to Google it to see if this was real. After everything we've seen these last two months, that's actually quite an accomplishment.

It is, of course, real.


And it gets worse. He goes on to list a whole lot of people and organizations that are in cahoots with the Chinese Communist Party, and who "aspire to the goals of communism". He includes the Republican Party as a whole in that list.
 
bonzombiekitty said:
I agree with term limits, but I wouldn't want them to be too short - there is something to be said for having people who know how government works and have formed professional relationships with their colleagues (in theory). Two terms for senators,4 for the house. 12 and 8 years max respectively seems appropriate to me.
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And a single six-year term for president.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump tweets

... Facebook has shut down the ad account for the Georgia Battleground Fund, a joint fundraising committee for NRSC, @Perduesenate, and @kloeffler. ...
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Sounds like this might be the reason why:

NYT: The latest attacks on Raphael Warnock take a key phrase out of context.
Her attack has been bolstered by a multimillion-dollar ad buy promoting a fallacious video of Mr. Warnock that uses the same out-of-context footage.
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Or maybe something to do with this: (scroll down)
Facebook lifts ban on political ads for Georgia runoff elections.

Facebook said on Tuesday that it would allow some advertisers to run political issue and candidacy ads in Georgia, a change from its recent ban on political ads in the United States and just weeks before a major runoff election in the state could decide the future of the Senate.

Beginning Wednesday morning, Facebook said it would allow authorized advertisers to buy and run political ads targeted to people within Georgia. Only those previously authorized to run such ads on the platform will be permitted, a process that involves identity verification and other safety measures. Facebook’s ban on political ads will otherwise remain in effect for the remaining 49 states.
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Could it be the ads were placed by sources that refused to be forthcoming about who they were?
 
eerok said:
I remember reading an observation by Antonio Banderas, who was born in Spain, that he was not considered white in America.
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Give him an American accent and American facial expressions and he would be though.
 
dudalb said:
Lin Wood, whose elevator most defnently does not got up to the top floor, is demanding that Pence be executed for treason.
This is the kind of attonrey that Trump was reduced to hiring....
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Oh, that elevator gets to the top floor alright- his problem is that it doesn't stop there, there are more floors in his building than were ever actually built into it.
 
dudalb said:
To be fair, you can despise Trump and think the Deficit is out of control.
Or do you think it's not a problem?
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You're saying that... a person can be a Democrat? ;)


As others have poked at, though, the deficit/debt is an issue that deserves much of the attention given to it primarily because of the incredible hypocrisy and bad faith that the GOP political class uses it with. For all their grandstanding (which overwhelmingly happens when Democrats are in power/money would be heading towards blue states), they very consistently show utter disdain for the principles they espoused when they were not in power, once they have the power to act upon them. Democrats are certainly not perfect on that front, of course, but like so much else, as a Party, Democrats fairly consistently show that they're actually *trying* to act in good faith and principle with their actions.
 
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i’m in the fence about the deficit. the ones most concerned about it also believe in supply side economics. in reality the US has experienced a lot of economic growth it otherwise would not have due to deficit spending.

I mean I understand that there’s a point where the US can’t make it’s interest payment which would be bad. but I’m also aware that point is a moving target and it’s also possible GDP growth and tax adjustments can sustain deficit spending indefinitely. It’s also likely that balancing the budget and cutting spending would shrink the economy to the point that it’s more harmful than continued deficit spending.
 
dirtywick said:
i’m in the fence about the deficit. the ones most concerned about it also believe in supply side economics. in reality the US has experienced a lot of economic growth it otherwise would not have due to deficit spending.

I mean I understand that there’s a point where the US can’t make it’s interest payment which would be bad. but I’m also aware that point is a moving target and it’s also possible GDP growth and tax adjustments can sustain deficit spending indefinitely. It’s also likely that balancing the budget and cutting spending would shrink the economy to the point that it’s more harmful than continued deficit spending.
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I'd say that it's a bit more complicated than that, honestly. For example, actual investment spending vs spending that's pretty much just one-off giveaways that won't meaningfully benefit the country. Infrastructure, research, making sure that children have their basic needs met so they're likely to grow up as happy, healthy, contributing members of society, helping out adults who are hitting rough times so that they'll be able to stay on or get back on their feet, and stuff like that is probably best considered as investment when it comes to the deficit. Overall, it will more than pay itself off. The supply side proponents tend to push for the latter, though, which tends to end up just lining the pockets of their rich and powerful donors at a dramatically higher rate, while at the same time pushing to cut investment spending. Given the actual people behind those pushes, of course, it's generally not actually so much about the debt/deficit, but rather that they don't want what they consider "their money" being taken from them for the sake of the suckers they took it from... and about power, really, because the less time, attention, and ability that the average person can spare to advocate for themselves, the easier it is for the people pushing supply side economics to gain and maintain power over everyone else.

Also, internal debt is much less worthy of concern than external debt. There's something to be said about the benefits of paying interest to your own citizens, yes, at least the ones that will actually then use it and generate more tax income. Not so much when it comes to paying interest to foreign countries, as has apparently increasingly been the case, and, separately, paying interest to those who are already absurdly rich.
 
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The US Congress has overturned President Donald Trump's veto of a defence spending bill, the first time this has happened in his presidency.

The Republican-controlled Senate held a rare New Year's Day session to debate the move, which had already been voted for by the House of Representatives.

The $740bn (£549bn) bill will fund defence policy for the year to come.

Mr Trump, who leaves office in a few weeks, objected to certain provisions in the bill.

The Senate voted 81-13 for the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) - a two-thirds majority is required to override a presidential veto in both chambers.

It comes just two days before a new US Congress is due to be sworn in.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55510151
 
Trump Tweets

For historical purposes remember, I was able to get rid of the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, the most unpopular and expensive part of ObamaCare. You are no longer forced to pay a fortune for the “privilege” of NOT getting bad healthcare. This ended ObamaCare as we knew it. Thank you!

TRANSPARENCY in medical pricing will be one of the biggest and most important things done for the American citizen. It was just put into service, January 1, against long odds and bitter opposition. Final lawsuits won last week. Enjoy all the extra money you will have!
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Our Republican Senate just missed the opportunity to get rid of Section 230, which gives unlimited power to Big Tech companies. Pathetic!!! Now they want to give people ravaged by the China Virus $600, rather than the $2000 which they so desperately need. Not fair, or smart!

@FoxNews Weekend Daytime is not watchable. Switching over to @OANN!
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So little time, so much TV to watch.
 
rdaneel said:
Yes, in fact, one of those bases should be named after this Revolutionary war hero.

Baron Friedrich von Steuben
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I remember the name from grade school, but they didn’t mention that he threw a party for the junior officers with the condition that none will be admitted while wearing a complete set of breeches.

Captain_Swoop said:
Name some bases after Presidents.

But not Trump.
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You’re thinking too short term.
What until a base is scheduled to be closed and then name it after Trump.
 
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