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Trump's Coup d'état.

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Meadmaker said:
If anything, I think this makes the problems worse, and might even be an enabler.


I don't like voter suppression tactics. No one admits that they do. However, the kind of voter suppression tactics that go on these days are a fundamentally different thing than what is going on this year with the objections to the vote allocation. It's one thing to make it difficult to vote, by setting up roadblocks. That's the sort of voter suppression that goes on these days. Laws are created that the people making those laws know will result if fewer votes. That's despicable, but it's at least still within the rule of law.

What is happening this year is that the radicals in the GOP want to just disregard actual votes counted, and in the course of so doing disregard the law itself. That's not merely despicable. It's dangerous to our democracy.

I think previous years' complaints about various reasons why past elections might not have been legitimate have helped contribute to an atmosphere where people are less likely to take notice when someone moves those complaints up a notch or five, as Trump and friends are doing now. At the very least, they are loudly crying that their efforts now are no different than previous Democratic objections and claims that previous elections were not legitimate. I don't think they really believe it, and I'm certain that all but the truly stupid ones can see the difference, but they know that some of their followers will be taken in by the BS they are slinging.
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You're probably right. I'm just sick of the GOP . Especially with this silly objection.
 
Gohmert's lawsuit tossed.

What a shocker.

It was tossed because of the obvious lack of standing. The judge didn't bother ruling on the merits. Too bad. Gohmert's lawsuit was pretty much the most stupid one we have seen in the last two months. And that's saying something.
 
acbytesla said:
What a shocker.

It was tossed because of the obvious lack of standing. The judge didn't bother ruling on the merits. Too bad. Gohmert's lawsuit was pretty much the most stupid one we have seen in the last two months. And that's saying something.
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I like this quote on AP:

https://apnews.com/article/election...rus-pandemic-af8af0146c88e866c558efa036f31749

"“A suit to establish that the Vice President has discretion over the count, filed against the Vice President, is a walking legal contradiction,” the department argues."
 
Craig4 said:
Maybe a good warning shot would be the Dems objecting the Alabama's slate of electors. It might give the Republicans pause.
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Surely you jest. Why would it give them pause to totally screw up the election that was over on the day the election was held? Seems to me that would play into their hands.
 
Repeated appeals remind me of unhappy customers going from one employee to another at the same place, knowing the answer because the other employees have already answered them, but just fishing for one who might either make a mistake or break the rules for them.

There really should be some way to stifle the nonsense of repeated appeals of transparently worthless non-cases. Having the limit just be determined by ability to keep paying for more is doing the country no good.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I'd like to see the 5th Circuit either dispense with it outright. Or, better, they should refuse to expedite the case. Let it rot on the calendar shelf. Then there would be no chance of wasting the SCOTUS' time.
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Keep in mind they won't read it until the 4th. That is, if they read it.
 
cosmicaug said:
According to Lin Woods (... you know, an actual lawyer who is for real representing the actual president of the United States), that person who should be replacing Pence should be Michael Flynn & Pence should be arrested for treason and executed by firing squad.

https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1345160893382995969
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It just goes to show that just because someone practices law, it doesn't mean they are smart. The President can not fire the VP. It's also not treason to follow the law regardless of what the President wants.
 
The dismissal of Gohmert's case puts the score at 1-60 for Trump and his allies.
No president has ever done better.

Skeptic Ginger said:
I'd like to see the 5th Circuit either dispense with it outright. Or, better, they should refuse to expedite the case. Let it rot on the calendar shelf. Then there would be no chance of wasting the SCOTUS' time.
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The courts should analyse the case very thoroughly, and, after Jan 21st, accept Gohmert's view on the VP's role in choosing the next president.
That way Kamala Harris gets to pick the next president in 2024, etc.

Sure Republicans, so respectful of the Constitution, will live with that. After all, it's what your Founding Fathers wanted all along. It just took the genius of Gohmert to finally understand it.
 
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