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Experts Are Begging You Not To Make And Inject Your Own Homemade Covid Vaccines

Setting aside everything else wrong with what this jackass is doing, has he thought of maybe a sterile or at least clean workspace? Seeing as his work area appears to be untreated sheet boards, I don't see how everything in the room wouldn't have mold spores on it. He mentioned rain in the first video. In high humidity, those walls would be a fungus dance party.

That must be David Ishee. His workspace is a shed in rural Tennessee (IIRC). I'd actually trust David Ishee way more than Josiah Zayner (though I still would question Ishee's judgment —see his previous, troubling involvement in something as dodgy as Ascendance Biomedical). They are both cool people, though.
 
Hmm... I did see that reposted QI clip a week or two ago about shipping cowpox injected orphans across to S. America as a way or transporting "smallpox vaccine".
Might be (if true) a more benign abuse of orphans. [emoji15]

(No word on if being left there afterwards was better or worse than returning to Europe. [emoji53] )
The use of orphans in the early smallpox vaccinations is well documented.
The Balmis Expedition in the early 1800s under Dr. Francisco de Balmis, used about fifty orphaned children in total; they were initially "recruited" from the 'Casa de Expósitos;orphanage in A Coruña in Galacia but more were obtained in the Americas.

Charles Maitland, who work preceded that of Jenner, experimented (under royal license) in the 1720s on prisoners in Newgate and later on orphaned children, before variolating the daughters of the Princess of Wales.

In the twentieth century orphanages were useful in the development of polio vaccines; John Kolmer tested his attenuated poliovirus vaccine on about 10,000 children in the United States and Canada (most of them in schools and orphanages).
At least twenty died and more were paralysed.
His vaccine used an attenuated strain of polio, where animals were infected and mutated and (hopefully) harmless virus particles harvested.
When he presented his results at 1935 annual meeting of the American Public Health Association the reception was, to put it mildly, poor; there were numerous objections to his research and one delegate called Kolmer a murderer to his face. His poor experiment design, without a control group to compare infection rates, also made deductions from his research difficult.
Curiously Kolmer’s bio at the AAI does not mention his polio research.

The real tragedy was that Kolmer was not the only person to be presenting on polio vaccine research that day in Milwaukee. Immediately after him there was a presentation by Dr. Maurice Brodie about his work on a polio vaccine, based on an inactivated (dead, killed by formaldehyde) form of the polio virus and initially tested on monkeys
Brodie's research was of far higher quality and his vaccine safer (he'd tested it initially on himself and his fellow researchers). Brodie was fired and died three years later while Kolmer, an established researcher whose vaccine was unsafe and probably ineffective, kept his job and receiveda second appointment as professor of medicine at Temple University.

Unfortunately the hostility generated by Kolmer killed off research into a polio vaccine for almost fifteen years; Salk's work in 1952 was on similar lines to that of Brodie.
 
The use of orphans in the early smallpox vaccinations is well documented.

The Balmis Expedition in the early 1800s under Dr. Francisco de Balmis, used about fifty orphaned children in total; they were initially "recruited" from the 'Casa de Expósitos;orphanage in A Coruña in Galacia but more were obtained in the Americas.



Charles Maitland, who work preceded that of Jenner, experimented (under royal license) in the 1720s on prisoners in Newgate and later on orphaned children, before variolating the daughters of the Princess of Wales.



In the twentieth century orphanages were useful in the development of polio vaccines; John Kolmer tested his attenuated poliovirus vaccine on about 10,000 children in the United States and Canada (most of them in schools and orphanages).

At least twenty died and more were paralysed.

His vaccine used an attenuated strain of polio, where animals were infected and mutated and (hopefully) harmless virus particles harvested.

When he presented his results at 1935 annual meeting of the American Public Health Association the reception was, to put it mildly, poor; there were numerous objections to his research and one delegate called Kolmer a murderer to his face. His poor experiment design, without a control group to compare infection rates, also made deductions from his research difficult.

Curiously Kolmer’s bio at the AAI does not mention his polio research.



The real tragedy was that Kolmer was not the only person to be presenting on polio vaccine research that day in Milwaukee. Immediately after him there was a presentation by Dr. Maurice Brodie about his work on a polio vaccine, based on an inactivated (dead, killed by formaldehyde) form of the polio virus and initially tested on monkeys

Brodie's research was of far higher quality and his vaccine safer (he'd tested it initially on himself and his fellow researchers). Brodie was fired and died three years later while Kolmer, an established researcher whose vaccine was unsafe and probably ineffective, kept his job and receiveda second appointment as professor of medicine at Temple University.



Unfortunately the hostility generated by Kolmer killed off research into a polio vaccine for almost fifteen years; Salk's work in 1952 was on similar lines to that of Brodie.
Thank you. That was a sad and unpleasant start to my morning... though I did spend three minutes learning a new word, the smallpox (variola) version of pre-vax innoculation. So there's that. [emoji1]
 
My vaccine is homemade, so you know it's good, all natural, not made in some government lab.

It's the love that makes it work so effectively. Covid patients reported side effects including, loss of taste, difficulty breathing, fever, coughing and aching but most recover in two to three weeks!
 
In theory, couldn't you take saliva from an infected person, microwave it for an adequate amount of time, and then ingest it? Could that produce much immune response, or any at all?
 
In theory, couldn't you take saliva from an infected person, microwave it for an adequate amount of time, and then ingest it? Could that produce much immune response, or any at all?

In theory, immunology is hard... very very hard.
 
My vaccine is homemade, so you know it's good, all natural, not made in some government lab.

It's the love that makes it work so effectively. Covid patients reported side effects including, loss of taste, difficulty breathing, fever, coughing and aching but most recover in two to three weeks!

For what it's worth, it's based on plasmid from a legitimately published paper. If they are using the same sequence, it doesn't matter if it's homemade or not, it's still the same plasmid (in reality, it's not even "homemade" since it is actually contracted out to a DNA synthesis vendor).

The approach from Pfizer-BioNTech & Moderna are variants of the approach they use (the difference is that, by using an RNA construct instead of a DNA construct, Pfizer-BioNTech & Moderna skip the middle man step of translating DNA into RNA).

The really tricky part is that injecting DNA or RNA by itself does nothing to guarantee that it will get into cells. A great deal of the technologies that Pfizer-BioNTech & Moderna have developed are all about addressing that point. It would appear that Zayner et al have attempted to address the deficiencies of their transfection method by using an extremely large total dose of DNA of 10 mg. for the immunizations (as 2 5 mg. injections).

Zayner himself has acknowledged that the issues surrounding vaccine safety & effectiveness are not truly amenable to this ad hoc approach and that well designed trials are necessary.

While I find some of his past stunts questionable, Zayner is not an idiot, he is passionate, he will go out of his way to help you and he is trying to address real issues.

http://www.josiahzayner.com/2020/12/
 
You know, we could, I don’t know, NOT tell people not to inject themselves with homemade vaccines and let natural selection do its thing?
 
The STATEMENT is by one of the many co-authors (doctors in there too) of the paper cautioning about the legal, ethical and public health pitfalls of an untrialed homemade vaccine. Just two clicks into the story's background and you'd know that.
I think the potential devastating health effects go without saying.

Do you gave a law degree though?
 
In theory, immunology is hard... very very hard.


That doesn't answer the question. FluMist is a live attenuated virus, so I suspect that maybe ingestion or nasal spray wouldn't produce enough immune response with a dead virus.
 
That doesn't answer the question.

OK. The answer is no.

FluMist is a live attenuated virus, so I suspect that maybe ingestion or nasal spray wouldn't produce enough immune response with a dead virus.

The one George Church and others have self-experimented with is an intranasal, subunit vaccine. The concern it that that approach will not elicit a sufficient immune response to be useful.
 

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