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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 26

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Captain_Swoop said:
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
With President @realDonaldTrump signing the COVID relief and government funding bill, suffering Americans will get help, the vaccine will be distributed faster, and the government will stay open.
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I think Lindsey Graham must have drawn the short straw in the Senate for who had to take the role of Trump's Poodle.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
With President @realDonaldTrump signing the COVID relief and government funding bill, suffering Americans will get help, the vaccine will be distributed faster, and the government will stay open.
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Gee, thanks President Trump!

Never mind that 331,000 US citizens have died of COVID so far. That particular "milestone" is 1 in every 1000 US citizens have been killed by COVID primarily due to the could-not-give-a-**** negligence this year of the Trump administration.

Lindsey! Lead us off with three cheers for your idol!
 
smartcooky said:
Well, the loan amounts are

$285m (against 1290 Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan)
$165m (against 555 California Street in San Francisco)
$100m (against Trump Tower)
$131m (against Doral)
$170m (against Trump International Hotel in Washington DC)
$47m (against Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago)
$13m (against Trump Plaza)

TOTAL $911m
There is also speculation that he owes a further $400m to Russian Oligarchs connected with Putin (which would explain why he is so deferential to Russia)

If these figures are correct, then $500m won't even go close to covering it. He will have to grift his dumb-as-**** followers out of a lot more of their unemployment benefit money.
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What's the big deal? He only needs to pass "GO" $4.555 million times to cover it, and avoid any hotels he doesn't own.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Lindsey Graham tweets

@LindseyGrahamSC
With President @realDonaldTrump signing the COVID relief and government funding bill, suffering Americans will get help, the vaccine will be distributed faster, and the government will stay open.
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Lindsey is like that little dog that yaps around bragging about how cool the big dog is in those looney tunes. This tweet doesn't say anything factually incorrect. He doesn't mention the fact that many Americans will hunger for, at least, a week because of the benefit delay. It's true the vaccine will be distributed faster than if the vaccine distribution funding wasn't approved. My electricity works much better than when I didn't pay my utility company....
 
I have a few questions about this last weekend. Before Trump left for Florida, it was reported that he had vetoed the defense bill and the stimulus bill and then signed them last night? How does that work? Does he revoke his vetoes? I've never seen a situation where POTUS has vetoed a bill and then signed it unchanged.

It's clear to me that he signed them because the vetoes were going to be overridden.
 
acbytesla said:
I have a few questions about this last weekend. Before Trump left for Florida, it was reported that he had vetoed the defense bill and the stimulus bill and then signed them last night? How does that work? Does he revoke his vetoes? I've never seen a situation where POTUS has vetoed a bill and then signed it unchanged.

It's clear to me that he signed them because the vetoes were going to be overridden.
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I think (100% not sure it being... ya know Trump and all) that Trump was originally going for a pocket veto and not a traditional veto so his "veto" was just a declaration of intent to let the bill expire while Congress wasn't in session.
 
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acbytesla said:
I have a few questions about this last weekend. Before Trump left for Florida, it was reported that he had vetoed the defense bill and the stimulus bill and then signed them last night? How does that work? Does he revoke his vetoes? I've never seen a situation where POTUS has vetoed a bill and then signed it unchanged.

It's clear to me that he signed them because the vetoes were going to be overridden.
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I would expect he "pocket vetoed" them, at least initially. That left him the option of signing them later, which he took. SO childish.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I think (100% not sure it being... ya know Trump and all) that Trump was originally going for a pocket veto and not a traditional veto so his "veto" was just a declaration of intent to let the bill expire while Congress wasn't in session.
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It turns out he absolutely did veto the Defense bill. But was issuing a pocket veto with the Stimulus. The House is voting this afternoon on overriding the veto this afternoon.

McConnell has scheduled a vote to override the veto tomorrow. I wonder who has the votes?
 
Norman Alexander said:
I would expect he "pocket vetoed" them, at least initially. That left him the option of signing them later, which he took. SO childish.
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Yeah..No.

For a Pocket Veto he would have had to do nothing. After 10 days without a veto the Congress would not have enough time to then override the veto.

Trump vetoed the Defense Bill. Congress can now vote to override the veto.

For the COVID Relief Bill Trump redlined a few things. I believe then certain related funds are help up for 45 days. Congress needs to debate the redlined items.

Given Trump won't be in power in 45 days I don't know what happens.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Yeah..No.

For a Pocket Veto he would have had to do nothing. After 10 days without a veto the Congress would not have enough time to then override the veto.

Trump vetoed the Defense Bill. Congress can now vote to override the veto.

For the COVID Relief Bill Trump redlined a few things. I believe then certain related funds are help up for 45 days. Congress needs to debate the redlined items.

Given Trump won't be in power in 45 days I don't know what happens.
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It suggests Trump has no idea what he is doing. He is simply not that devious, and besides, he is too busy golfing and kicking back in Florida to give a flying **** any more. So someone much better educated than him on these matters is the real architect of this chaos.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Yeah..No.

For a Pocket Veto he would have had to do nothing. After 10 days without a veto the Congress would not have enough time to then override the veto.

Trump vetoed the Defense Bill. Congress can now vote to override the veto.

For the COVID Relief Bill Trump redlined a few things. I believe then certain related funds are help up for 45 days. Congress needs to debate the redlined items.
Given Trump won't be in power in 45 days I don't know what happens.
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What the hell does red lining a few things mean?

POTUS, unlike in many States does not have the line item veto. He can either sign a bill as it is written or send it back. At least, that is my understanding.
 
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Well yeah but I don't think there is anything on a legal/Constitution level that stops the President from just saying what parts of a bill that is making him veto it.

It's not so much a line item veto (i.e. passing certain parts of a bill but not passing others) but just "I'm not passing the bill because of this and that."
 
Norman Alexander said:
It suggests Trump has no idea what he is doing. He is simply not that devious, and besides, he is too busy golfing and kicking back in Florida to give a flying **** any more. So someone much better educated than him on these matters is the real architect of this chaos.
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Oh I'm sure he still gives a ****, about being in the limelight.

He needed to gin up news media interest that was fading from his initial refusal to sign the bills.

I believe someone said that upthread or recently in another thread.
 
Trump Retweeted

Lindsey Graham
@LindseyGrahamSC
Congress will vote on additional stimulus checks and repealing Section 230 -- all wins for the American people.

Well done Mr. President!

Both are reasonable demands, and I hope Congress is listening. The biggest winner would be the American people.
 
The moron in the white house tweeted today that PA found 205K more votes than voters and that alone flips PA.

What a buffoon!
 
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