The George Soros thread

[eerok]

Anyone not in agreement with Soros' behavior is anti-semitic. Got it.

It makes no sense.

What shall we say about people who dislike behavior identical to his, and/or his behavior, but dont know that he is jewish?

What behavior are you talking about? If it's related to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of crapola, world domination, NWO, and the like, then it's obviously anti-semitic. Soros being a Jew doesn't mean he has evil intentions.

If you don't like Soros donating his money to progressive and liberal causes, then feel free to whine about that, but what's there to say about it?

 

[Bubba]

What if someone critical of Soros' behavior doesnt know he is jewish?

What if someone objects to the same behavior in a black Irish racist trans-phobic lapsed catholic lesbian?

This room's logic involved says the lapsed catholic lesbian is anti-semitic.

Skeptics would not discriminate

 

[eerok]

What if someone critical of Soros' behavior doesnt know he is jewish?

What if someone objects to the same behavior in a black Irish racist trans-phobic lapsed catholic lesbian?

This room's logic involved says the lapsed catholic lesbian is anti-semitic.

Skeptics would not discriminate

I asked you what behavior you're talking about. If you can't tell me, I'll conclude you have nothing to say.

 

[Bubba]

What behavior are you talking about? If it's related to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of crapola, world domination, NWO, and the like, then it's obviously anti-semitic.

Any behavior.

Soros being a Jew doesn't mean he has evil intentions.

Thats the point here.

If you don't like Soros donating his money to progressive and liberal causes, then feel free to whine about that, but what's there to say about it?

According to some posters above, if you tolerate evil people criticizing Soros for donating to progressive and liberal causes, or for picking his nosewhile showering, you are probably a closet anti-semite.

Be careful. In this room that might get you tarred and feathered for heresy.

Dont be like Da Vinci.

 

[Bubba]

Incorrect. If people are lately attributing the same types of conspiracy theories that used to be laid at the feet of "the Jews" generally, to George Soros (who is a Jew) specifically, that is more than sufficient reason to think that the anti-semitic origins of the conspiracies and attitudes of those pushing them, have not changed.

And that is of course what has been happening. Instead of "the Jews are manipulating everything behind the scenes", it's now 'a Jew named George Soros is manipulating everything behind the scenes".

If someone said Soros is an influencer, would you say they are anti-semitic?

What if they said he is a jewish influencer?

 

[eerok]

Any behavior.

No, if you don't like Soros' taste in art or literature, it's not anti-semitic to say so. Why the hell would it be?

Thats the point here.

Then you understand that saying Soros has evil intentions simply on the basis of his Jewishness is what's anti-semitic?

According to some posters above, if you tolerate evil people criticizing Soros for donating to progressive and liberal causes, or for picking his nosewhile showering, you are probably a closet anti-semite.

I don't think anyone is saying that.

The thing is, the right wing has no reason to make the claims they do about Soros without implying he's an evil Jew with an evil Jewish agenda. Soros can donate his money freely and legally however he likes, and you are free to dislike this. It's the larger claims about the world dominating agenda, echoing The Protocols that are problematic. And it looks like that's where the right wing criticism of Soros is coming from.

Be careful. In this room that might get you tarred and feathered for heresy.

I'm not worried about it.

 

[Bubba]

Those claiming Soros is a NWO Globalist etc will claim the same thing about non-jewish players, for the same behaviors.


Why is mud tossed only toward the Soros claims?


Not that it happened, but should shouting Anti-Italian!! discourage mafia investigators??

Would jewish crooks hide behind cries of Anti-semitic !..? Might their non jewish sympathizers be heard shouting Anti-semitic ! to discourage people from listening to critics and claimants?


This should not need to be spelled out.

 

[eerok]

Those claiming Soros is a NWO Globalist etc will claim the same thing about non-jewish players, for the same behaviors.

I don't believe you. I think Soros' Jewishness is a problem for the right wing, and that's why they say so many stupid things about him.

Again I ask, what behaviors? A lot of people donate to progressive and liberal causes without gaining the attention that Soros does, so that can't be it. So what is it?

 

[Bubba]

Because the only reason people who criticize George Soros believe in their befuddled brains that he is funding antifa, radicalizing African-Americans, undermining society and promoting a globalist agenda is because in those befuddled brains George Soros is an archetypal "rich and powerful Jew", and they believe that referring to someone like George Soros specifically by name rather than saying "the Jews" generally, provides them a measure plausible deniability against people who realize that their arguments are thinly-disguised but otherwise standard "Jews controlling everything" anti-semitism and call them out for it.

Kinda ridiculous because Soros is not "the jews". He is an individual

 

[Bubba]

I don't believe you. I think Soros' Jewishness is a problem for the right wing, and that's why they say so many stupid things about him.

Again I ask, what behaviors? A lot of people donate to progressive and liberal causes without gaining the attention that Soros does, so that can't be it. So what is it?

It doesnt matter where the point, to me anyway, is behavior vs identity.


I heard that that lapsed catholic Polish black trans-phobic lesbian supports the Jehovah Witness International all male Glee Club. I disapprove of that behavior. Glee Clubs are hotbeds of bad harmony.

I'd also disapprove if Soros (or anyone) supported that cause, or if it were true he was supporting certain progressive causes which I dont support.


I would agree if someone said something like:

....I think Soros' Jewishness is a problem for some people in the right wing, and that's why they say so many stupid things about him.

I think avoiding superlatives is usually a wise approach.

 

[eerok]

It doesnt matter where the point, to me anyway, is behavior vs identity.

I heard that that lapsed catholic Polish black trans-phobic lesbian supports the Jehovah Witness International all male Glee Club. I disapprove of that behavior. Glee Clubs are hotbeds of bad harmony.

I'd also disapprove if Soros (or anyone) supported that cause, or if it were true he was supporting certain progressive causes which I dont support.

I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. As I've suggested, to be anti-semitic in this context is to invent an NWO/Jewish conspiracy motive to explain the actions of Soros. You are free to disagree with his politics of course. These are very different things.

I would agree if someone said something like:

....I think Soros' Jewishness is a problem for some people in the right wing, and that's why they say so many stupid things about him.

I think avoiding superlatives is usually a wise approach.

If I were more of an optimist about the right wing, I might agree with you, but I'm not.

 

[CaptainHowdy]

What behavior are you talking about? If it's related to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion kind of crapola, world domination, NWO, and the like, then it's obviously anti-semitic. Soros being a Jew doesn't mean he has evil intentions.

Of course. Soros doesn't have evil intentions. No philanthropist, Jewish or not, intends their money to be used for evil. I'm sure that George Soros has noble intent but some of the causes he supports have, and will continue, to cause untold suffering for millions of people around the world. George Soros should be criticized for the causes he supports.

However, vilifying Soros has nothing to do with the Jews.

If you don't like Soros donating his money to progressive and liberal causes, then feel free to whine about that, but what's there to say about it?

One thing they should not say is that it's antisemitic.

 

[eerok]

Of course. Soros doesn't have evil intentions. No philanthropist, Jewish or not, intends their money to be used for evil. I'm sure that George Soros has noble intent but some of the causes he supports have, and will continue, to cause untold suffering for millions of people around the world. George Soros should be criticized for the causes he supports.

Show me.

However, vilifying Soros has nothing to do with the Jews.

Show me.

 

[CaptainHowdy]

Incorrect. If people are lately attributing the same types of conspiracy theories that used to be laid at the feet of "the Jews" generally, to George Soros (who is a Jew) specifically, that is more than sufficient reason to think that the anti-semitic origins of the conspiracies and attitudes of those pushing them, have not changed.

And that is of course what has been happening. Instead of "the Jews are manipulating everything behind the scenes", it's now 'a Jew named George Soros is manipulating everything behind the scenes".

You have cause and effect reversed. Antisemites didn't decide that George Soros represents the living embodiment of the Jewish people and that fighting against George Soros is a way of attacking the Jews.

People who hate George Soros hate him for his Open Society Foundation. They hate him because his enormous wealth gives him enormous influence on the world's stage. They hate him because he finances causes that have created and will continue creating untold misery for millions of people around the world. Nobody hates him because he is Jewish. Nobody would even know he's Jewish or make any connection with the Jewish people if Jews didn't dismiss everybody who opposes him of being motivated by antisemitism.

 

[Bubba]

I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. As I've suggested, to be anti-semitic in this context is to invent an NWO/Jewish conspiracy motive to explain the actions of Soros. You are free to disagree with his politics of course. These are very different things.

I'm saying I agree with you.

If I were more of an optimist about the right wing, I might agree with you, but I'm not.

What about conservative jews who support Trump.

Do you make exceptions for them, or are they also antisemitic ?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

I'm sure that George Soros has noble intent but some of the causes he supports have, and will continue, to cause untold suffering for millions of people around the world.

".......by 2017, George Soros' donations "on civil initiatives to reduce poverty and increase transparency, and on scholarships and universities around the world" totaled $12 billion"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

So you really hate poverty reduction and political transparency?

 

[Bubba]

Some guy on FB just said Soros, W, Obama, and Hillary are all in custody.


Sorry, I dont believe it. (enjoy your victory laps anyway)

If only it were true.

 

[zooterkin]

Several posts sent to AAH.

Knock off the personalisation, please address what people have said in this thread, not elsewhere. Also knock off the unnecessary quoting; if someone is using the 'ignore' feature, that's their choice.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: zooterkin

 

[eerok]

What about conservative jews who support Trump.

Do you make exceptions for them, or are they also antisemitic ?

I don't think that conservatism requires one to be anti-semitic, and I don't think that all anti-semites are conservative. One is what one does.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Some guy on FB just said Soros, W, Obama, and Hillary are all in custody.


Sorry, I dont believe it. (enjoy your victory laps anyway)

If only it were true.

Some guy on FaceBook said that POTUS spent the weekend playing golf.

On My God!!!! That was true.