Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

[Bubba]

Asking for follow ups on your unsourced, unverified claims is not an outlandish reaction where I need to be rebuked.

Describing sensible reasons why such a request makes sense and fits your own pattern of not taking unsourced claims at face value even less so.



Smug suggestions of other people's emotional volatility when no such volatility is being displayed is an immature tactic for thought interruption.

Don't do it again.

Yes sir. Sorry sir. It wont happen again sir.

Engage with me in good faith dialogue please.

How nice of you to say please.


What do you wanna know?

 

[Bubba]

never mind

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

If you paid attention, it was The Georgia Senate Committee.

It wasn't any committee of the State Senate of Georgia. It was the Georgia Senate Committee.

In other words, it may very well have been some drunk guys in a pub. It was a private, non-governmental entity, that chose the name Georgia Senate Committee, not affiliated with the government of the State of Georgia, nor any subdivision thereof.

This was a real actual official hearing by senators of a subcommittee of the State Senate of Georgia. The report lists the Senators who are members of this subcommittee, which is a subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

At the beginning, it appears Senator Ligon starts to say that the minority (Democrat) members of the subcommittee had been notified but none showed up, but he stopped prat way and acknowledged that Senator Parent (D) was present.

I get the feeling that they lined up Rudy and all the other witnesses and then gave the absolute minimum notice before the hearing to ensure that they would only get testimony from one side of the argument. Then Ligon wrote up his own summary report asking for the General Assembly to immediately convene to vote on rescinding the certification of the election and publishes the report on his website even though it was not approved by the subcommittee.

It was just a political stunt. But it was a real actual political stunt.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Yes sir. Sorry sir. It wont happen again sir.





How nice of you to say please.


What do you wanna know?

In a media format where you can find that out by scrolling up for a few seconds, why don't you prove your incredible skills of perception by way of demonstration.

 

[Aridas]

Here's something "noteworthy"

Compare search results from Google and DuckDuckGo...
(google is the one caught hiding stuff from people in some parts of the world)

Search term: List false flag attacks

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=List+false+flag+attacks&atb=v253-3


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=List+false+flag+attacks

Okay. On a look, I see that, for me, the DuckDuckGo search and Google search have different placements for Wikipedia and a fair bit of overlap in what links were on the first page. The most "notable" distinction was that DuckDuckGo had a link to News Punch fairly close to the top. To poke at Media Bias Fact Check, again...

Overall, we rate News Punch a Questionable source based on extreme right-wing bias and promotion of tin foil hat conspiracies. This website has zero credibility due to the routine publishing of fake news

 

[Delphic Oracle]

This was a real actual official hearing by senators of a subcommittee of the State Senate of Georgia. The report lists the Senators who are members of this subcommittee, which is a subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee.



At the beginning, it appears Senator Ligon starts to say that the minority (Democrat) members of the subcommittee had been notified but none showed up, but he stopped prat way and acknowledged that Senator Parent (D) was present.



I get the feeling that they lined up Rudy and all the other witnesses and then gave the absolute minimum notice before the hearing to ensure that they would only get testimony from one side of the argument. Then Ligon wrote up his own summary report asking for the General Assembly to immediately convene to vote on rescinding the certification of the election and publishes the report on his website even though it was not approved by the subcommittee.



It was just a political stunt. But it was a real actual political stunt.

Of course, if a process for rescinding the certification by vote of the legislature isn't in the Georgia election laws, then a recommendation to do so really is basically just toilet paper with words written on it.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Time for Republican Senators to step up and fight for the Presidency, like the Democrats would do if they had actually won. The proof is irrefutable! Massive late night mail-in ballot drops in swing states, stuffing the ballot boxes (on video), double voters, dead voters,

....fake signatures, illegal immigrant voters, banned Republican vote watchers, MORE VOTES THAN ACTUAL VOTERS (check out Detroit & Philadelphia), and much more. The numbers are far greater than what is necessary to win the individual swing states, and cannot even be contested....

....Courts are bad, the FBI and “Justice” didn’t do their job, and the United States Election System looks like that of a third world country. Freedom of the press has been gone for a long time, it is Fake News, and now we have Big Tech (with Section 230) to deal with....

....But when it is all over, and this period of time becomes just another ugly chapter in our Country’s history, WE WILL WIN!!!

 

[Meadmaker]

Of course.

As in False Flag 101. Its a time honored tradition, as you know.

Yep. It's just like all those other false flag attacks, like.........uhhhmmmm.......you know. Those others.

 

[Meadmaker]

This was a real actual official hearing by senators of a subcommittee of the State Senate of Georgia. The report lists the Senators who are members of this subcommittee, which is a subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

At the beginning, it appears Senator Ligon starts to say that the minority (Democrat) members of the subcommittee had been notified but none showed up, but he stopped prat way and acknowledged that Senator Parent (D) was present.

I get the feeling that they lined up Rudy and all the other witnesses and then gave the absolute minimum notice before the hearing to ensure that they would only get testimony from one side of the argument. Then Ligon wrote up his own summary report asking for the General Assembly to immediately convene to vote on rescinding the certification of the election and publishes the report on his website even though it was not approved by the subcommittee.

It was just a political stunt. But it was a real actual political stunt.

My mistake.

The senators who took part should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Resume]

..Courts are bad, the FBI and “Justice” didn’t do their job, and the United States Election System looks like that of a third world country. Freedom of the press has been gone for a long time, it is Fake News, and now we have Big Tech (with Section 230) to deal with....

Nobody likes me! Everybody hates me! Think I'll go home and eat worms! I'll go Mar-A-Lago and count the money my idiot supporters send me!

 

[Bubba]

Regarding a possible election fraud related motive for a hypothetical false flag bombing in Nashville, about which some FB nobody implied that voting machines were involved.

Yep. It's just like all those other false flag attacks, like.........uhhhmmmm.......you know. Those others.

Please take this in a good way, as an example of perhaps being not fully cognizant of a slice of a topic.....not to say that you are clueless, of course, but just maybe to consider that you may have a blind spot or two.

So Common … There’s a Name for It

The use of the bully’s trick is so common that it was given a name hundreds of years ago.

“False flag terrorism” is defined as a government attacking its own people, then blaming others in order to justify going to war against the people it blames. Or as Wikipedia defines it:

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one’s own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy’s strategy of tension.


Indeed, this concept is so well-accepted that rules of engagement for naval, air and land warfare all prohibit false flag attacks.

Okay. On a look, I see that, for me, the DuckDuckGo search and Google search have different placements for Wikipedia and a fair bit of overlap in what links were on the first page. The most "notable" distinction was that DuckDuckGo had a link to News Punch fairly close to the top. To poke at Media Bias Fact Check, again...

Please see above.

There's a conspiracy to hide the conspiracies...

Well, the difference in the search results are rather "noteworthy".

Google is already known for (proven) restricting info for political motives

False Flag Attacks are the epitome of "political motive".

Googles search results for "List false flag attacks" does not include the attacks which DuckDuckGo lists, although some there are unproven assertions.

Its fair to say google downplays the existence of false flag attacks. That is political.

A sample of a more balanced view, with dozens of instances:

Indeed, this concept is so well-accepted that rules of engagement for naval, air and land warfare all prohibit false flag attacks.

 

[Bubba]

by Aridas:

Overall, we rate News Punch a Questionable source based on extreme right-wing bias and promotion of tin foil hat conspiracies. This website has zero credibility due to the routine publishing of fake news

Whenever you see "tin foil hat" associated with False Flag Attacks, you know what to do.

Think twice before swallowing.

 

[Bubba]

I think they omitted this one:


Operation Northwoods
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency or other U.S. government operatives to both stage and actually commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba.

More at "Wikipedia"

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Is this a thread about election fraud conspiracies or social media political censorship conspiracies?

We may need a split before this goes completely bonkers...

 

[Craig4]

never mind

Kind of goes without saying.

 

[Craig4]

Is this a thread about election fraud conspiracies or social media political censorship conspiracies?

We may need a split before this goes completely bonkers...

That ship sailed a long time ago.

 

[Checkmite]

I think they omitted this one:


Operation Northwoods
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency or other U.S. government operatives to both stage and actually commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba.

More at "Wikipedia"

Well, this wouldn't really be a "false flag attack" because it was just a bit of creative writing, insofar as "Operation Northwoods" never actually happened.

 

[Checkmite]

Regarding a possible election fraud related motive for a hypothetical false flag bombing in Nashville, about which some FB nobody implied that voting machines were involved.

Nobody is contesting the election result in Tennessee, so why would a hypothetical election fraudster set off a bomb there as opposed to, say, Michigan or Georgia?

 

[Craig4]

Regarding a possible election fraud related motive for a hypothetical false flag bombing in Nashville, about which some FB nobody implied that voting machines were involved.

It's possible we'll never know what he was thinking about being as the last things to go through his mind were his teeth.

 

[Craig4]

Nobody is contesting the election result in Tennessee, so why would a hypothetical election fraudster set off a bomb there as opposed to, say, Michigan or Georgia?

Well, if he believed all this election fraud crap, there's a really good chance he was a ******* idiot. Don't want to judge before all the facts are in though.