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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 26

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Firestone said:
Even Jonathan Turley is critical about the pardon of crooked congressmen.
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It's not like Trump's constant efforts to make the swamp even bigger and nastier have been in any way secret, though, so I have no idea why anyone would still wonder along those lines, provided that they weren't intentionally ignoring what they didn't want to hear.

Norman Alexander said:
Because nobody will ever see or know they did that...

;)
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See or know? The GOP almost seems to prefer criminals.


Oh, and I figure that I'll poke at yet more Georgia GOP election shenanigans in this thread again, though I also poked at these in an election conspiracy thread as examples of the actual things happening.

After Democrats flip state, Georgia moves to shut down early voting locations ahead of Senate runoff
Civil rights groups: Georgia early-voting site closures disproportionately hurt Black, Latino voters

For example, apparently in a county with 11 polling places, the Republicans shut down the 6 in black areas and left the 5 in whiter areas open.

Yes, that blatant.

Then, well... Don't own a car in Georgia? That's basis to challenge one's right to vote, apparently, triggering a court process to gain the right to actually vote that will only start after the runoffs. The number of challenges may be up to at least 364,000.

Technically, the state can’t stop Georgia citizens from voting because they don’t have a car. Rather, any registrar can “challenge” and thereby delay a voter’s registration until they have a hearing where they will be required to prove residence. This creates a huge impediment to new voters.
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Students, poor people, city-dwellers, otherwise carless people... Ostensibly, the rule's been pushed to defend against out of staters heading to Georgia to vote fraudulently. It's just a "happy coincidence" that it also happens to set up a potential nasty roadblock for likely Democrat voting groups, as well.

Oh, and... as of September, an ACLU investigation found that nearly 200K voters had been wrongfully purged under the assumption that they had moved. Looks like Georgia's being sued currently for their reinstatement before the runoffs, but I'm not holding my breath on that. It was fairly certainly legal to have purged them, of note, though, under a purge condition that seems to have roughly a 1/3 accuracy rate. Given that they'd likely have needed to re-register after having been wrongfully purged, the car rule would likely apply to their registrations, too, if they sought to vote.

Yeah, the Georgia GOP are trying to cheat like crazy, and this doesn't even come close to covering their shenanigans, which also apparently also include, for example, a bunch of perjury related to their voter purges.
 
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Aridas said:
It's not like Trump's constant efforts to make the swamp even bigger and nastier have been in any way secret, though, so I have no idea why anyone would still wonder along those lines, provided that they weren't intentionally ignoring what they didn't want to hear.
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Of course.

But Turley is a big Trump supporter, so it's interesting that he suddenly "sees the light" (very selectively, no doubt).
 
Trebuchet said:
I haven't had the stomach to look it up yet, but Trump has pardoned a raft of criminals today, including some crooked congressmen and Blackwater murderers.
And we've got four weeks left.
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1) We’re talking about the pardons, so mission accomplished.

2) What strikes me is the wasted hours spent investigating, arresting and trying these folks. I can only imagine the frustration of the officers, agents, prosecutors and judges who may have worked for years to ensure justice was carried out.

3) Rachel Maddow pointed out that most of the pardons had some sort of warped “Trump logic”. But one stood out as being somewhat mysterious:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article248044835.html

Seems to scream out that some sort of impropriety was involved in the pardon process.
 
The Dumbest Moments of the Trump Presidency

Five years of stupid lunacy collected by Slate.

The Donald Trump presidency ended, in a way, on Nov. 7. That was the day that media outlets called Pennsylvania, and thus the 2020 election, for Joe Biden. It was also the day that Trump tweeted his campaign would be holding a press conference at the Four Seasons in Philadelphia, only to follow up with a clarifying tweet that he meant “Four Seasons Landscaping,” a business located on the outskirts of the city near an adult bookstore and a crematorium. Yes, the campaign later claimed there was a reason why they booked this particular venue. So, yes, we don’t know for sure that the campaign actually meant to hold its event, at which Rudy Giuliani made luridly dishonest and fantastical claims about voter fraud, at the Four Seasons Hotel, only to book the completely unrelated landscaping company by mistake. But we know.

When the story of this era is told many years from now, students and history enthusiasts will learn about Trump’s lies, corruption, self-enrichment, and abuse. What they may not grasp—and what even now is hard to comprehend—is just how stupid it was to live through. The president told the nation to inject bleach during a pandemic; his team altered the projected path of a hurricane on an official document, with a Sharpie, to help the president save face after an erroneous tweet. There were the dishwashers that had to be run 10 times. The blank pages that the White House pretended were important documents. A long, long time ago, Trump declared himself a “very stable genius.” By now, that phrase feels almost normal. But seriously: What?

For almost five years, we have been collecting such stories with quick notes to our future selves—notes that, when we looked through them last month after Trump lost his reelection bid, read less as presidential history than the diary of a lunatic. We had to go back and make sense of them all, matching our mad scribbles to events that actually happened in the real world. And now we bring them to you.
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The Dems are calling the bluff and going to pass a bill to give everyone $2K. I'm sure Mitch isn't happy at all but may go along.

However, what is Trump calling unnecessary? No one knows, I'm sure. Not even Trump.
 
I thiin Trump is in full "THe American People must suffer because they are unworthy of me" mode.
He has gone totally bonkers.
 
I think the pardons of the Blackwater people and that bor4dergurar sends a clear message to Trump's armed supporteres. Killing people of color is a good,patriotic thing.
 
And, frankly, I think Pelosi and Schumer are being very short sighted siding with Trump on this.
God, I am begginng to hate both parties.
 
I don't think they are being short-sighted at all. They are calling his bluff and putting all the pressure on Mitch.
 
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And, frankly, I think Pelosi and Schumer are being very short sighted siding with Trump on this.
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If they originally wanted $2,000 stimulus cheques and the Republicans bargained them down to $600, then they're not siding with Trump; Trump's siding with them. And it would be dishonest and stupid to abandon a policy decision just because Trump agrees with it.

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Dave Rogers said:
If they originally wanted $2,000 stimulus cheques and the Republicans bargained them down to $600, then they're not siding with Trump; Trump's siding with them. And it would be dishonest and stupid to abandon a policy decision just because Trump agrees with it.

Dave
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Anything that makes Trump stronger and make him look good is bad.
What part of Trump is a living danger to democracy, and naything that helps him is a bad move don't you get?
 
slowsmile said:
"Vladimir Putin has signed legislation that will grant former presidents of Russia lifetime immunity once they leave office.

The bill, which was published online on Tuesday, gives former presidents and their families immunity from prosecution for crimes committed during their lifetime.

They will also be exempt from questioning by police or investigators, as well as searches or arrests."
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No worries, in totalitarian country this kind of bill is worthless for purpose of actually protecting former ruler.

Even if we are to take this bill seriously, then if Putin somehow loses power, he will end up having mysterious accident instead of Stalin-style kangaroo court show. That's all difference this bill could make.

This bill is like Putin's assassinations: yeah, we all but admit we did it and what you can do about it?
 
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dudalb said:
Anything that makes Trump stronger and make him look good is bad.
What part of Trump is a living danger to democracy, and naything that helps him is a bad move don't you get?
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It remains to be seen whether it does either. How likely is it that Trump will work with the Democrats on this? I think it's more likely he'll come up with something even more unfathomably bizarre to complain about. Also, anything that makes Trump's opponents look weak and indecisive - like, for example, immediately abandoning a rational decision just because Trump agrees with it - is a bad move, isn't it?

Dave
 
dudalb said:
Anything that makes Trump stronger and make him look good is bad.
What part of Trump is a living danger to democracy, and naything that helps him is a bad move don't you get?
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The important thing is that the people need the money. I think that's the only consideration.
 
Trebuchet said:
I haven't had the stomach to look it up yet, but Trump has pardoned a raft of criminals today, including some crooked congressmen and Blackwater murderers.
And we've got four weeks left.
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I certainly hope the World Court brings charges and issues INTERPOL red notices for the murders from Blackwater. If they ever travel outside the US they could be arrested and brought to court.
 
eerok said:
The important thing is that the people need the money. I think that's the only consideration.
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And anyways, how does this "help" Trump? He's already lost the election and almost every lawsuit he's brought. Even if this makes some people decide they should have voted for him, it's too little too late.


The only worry about this is it might help the GOP win the Senate run-offs in Georgia, but even there, it seems pretty obvious that it's the GOP Senators who are the problem here. I've even seen posts from Republicans and conservatives who are finally realizing that the GOP Senate does not have their best interests in mind.
 
I wonder which of Trump's current actions were the ones reportedly worrying his advisors: pardoning Blackwater war criminals or siding with Democrats on Covid checks?

(I don't actually wonder)
 
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