Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

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Yes, I seem to remember it was widely reported in international news media, and not really surprising anybody, I think.

Hans

These were probably some of the most closely internationally monitored elections in history. The UN, OSCE and The Carter Center people were all over the place. It was a real train wreck.
 
And now we have a new 2020 election conspiracy;

Trump knew about the huge Russian hack in advance, was told it would target the computers controlling vote counting, and would guarantee a win....but something went wrong and it did not work, and Trump was geuninly shocked when he did not win.
 
And now we have a new 2020 election conspiracy;

Trump knew about the huge Russian hack in advance, was told it would target the computers controlling vote counting, and would guarantee a win....but something went wrong and it did not work, and Trump was geuninly shocked when he did not win.

That actually sounds rather likely. It would make sense that he would say that the election was rigged if he thought the Russians had rigged it in his favor and he then lost.
 
This sort of thing has come up a few times, and it stil drives me wild. I'm perfectly willing to be corrected by wiser minds, but the sort of thing they are talking about is not 'statistically impossible' at all. Almost nothing is 'statistically impossible'. Improbable, certainly, but not impossible.

They possibly mean 'mathematically impossible' which is a whole different thing. (also also unproven, but hey, let's not sweat the details)

I think that what they are trying to say is that the probability is so low that it suggests manipulation. e.g. In a high stakes poker game, I was dealt an 8 high straight flush, so I went all in. On the very same hand, someone else was dealt a 10 high straight flush. I think they were cheating. It is statistically impossible for that to happen.

No one would say the above situation was "mathematically impossible", because that term is reserved for things that are literally impossible, such as having a right triangle that has sides with length 2, 3, and 4.

In the poker game example, that isn't actually impossible. In fact, the probability can be calculated precisely, and it is not zero, but I can see people using the phrase "statistically impossible" to describe it.


Of course, applying that to Navarro's idiotic report is balderdash. They don't have any statistics or probability that has any basis in reality at all. They're making stuff up. They're lying, and hoping their followers don't have enough knowledge or interest to see through it. Based on previous experience, that's a safe bet. I just don't know how big of a group the "followers" are. 10% of the country? 40%? I don't know. Too many? Certainly.
 
I think that what they are trying to say is that the probability is so low that it suggests manipulation. e.g. In a high stakes poker game, I was dealt an 8 high straight flush, so I went all in. On the very same hand, someone else was dealt a 10 high straight flush. I think they were cheating. It is statistically impossible for that to happen.

No one would say the above situation was "mathematically impossible", because that term is reserved for things that are literally impossible, such as having a right triangle that has sides with length 2, 3, and 4.

In the poker game example, that isn't actually impossible. In fact, the probability can be calculated precisely, and it is not zero, but I can see people using the phrase "statistically impossible" to describe it.


Of course, applying that to Navarro's idiotic report is balderdash. They don't have any statistics or probability that has any basis in reality at all. They're making stuff up. They're lying, and hoping their followers don't have enough knowledge or interest to see through it. Based on previous experience, that's a safe bet. I just don't know how big of a group the "followers" are. 10% of the country? 40%? I don't know. Too many? Certainly.

Been playing porker for 40+ years and in one game I was dealt the highest card hand you can get a royal flush, five rounds later I was dealt the same hand exactly - same suite, by a different dealer. I've never have been dealt another one or gotten another one in all the years following - the odds of that were 649,739 : 1..twice
 
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Again, out of the nearly infinite amount of things occurring in the universe, a thing occurred, regardless of the odds, or calculations based on valid input, or not.

Or in other words, we lost, and now we're going to make **** up.
 
Again, out of the nearly infinite amount of things occurring in the universe, a thing occurred, regardless of the odds, or calculations based on valid input, or not.

Or in other words, we lost, and now we're going to make **** up.

No, it didn't just occur. It was no statistical fluke. People who were fed up with Trump turned out in unprecedented numbers to vote against him, and he lost.

End of story.

Hans
 
Been playing porker for 40+ years and in one game I was dealt the highest card hand you can get a royal flush, five rounds later I was dealt the same hand exactly - same suite, by a different dealer. I've never have been dealt another one or gotten another one in all the years following - the odds of that were 649,739 : 1..twice

That's spooky.
 
That actually sounds rather likely. It would make sense that he would say that the election was rigged if he thought the Russians had rigged it in his favor and he then lost.

It'd sound much likelier if his pretty constant refrain all along wasn't that the only way that he could possibly lose was if the elections were rigged.
 
Trump Retweeted

Greg Kelly
@gregkellyusa
So there’s ⁦@TTuberville⁩ —on his way to the US SENATE. I hear we should be able to COUNT ON HIM on JAN 6th. He’s a world class COACH. Unlike most of the Bozos in the SWAMP—he’s going to Do something, not Be something. Go TOMMY!
 
Trump Retweeted

Greg Kelly
@gregkellyusa
So there’s ⁦@TTuberville⁩ —on his way to the US SENATE. I hear we should be able to COUNT ON HIM on JAN 6th. He’s a world class COACH. Unlike most of the Bozos in the SWAMP—he’s going to Do something, not Be something. Go TOMMY!

I always wonder if the capitalised words are meant to mean something.

“US Senate count on him, Jan! Coach ‘Swamp Tommy’!”

Now, who’s Jan?
 
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