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Disappearing Santa Hat

Thermal said:
Only the Moderators/Administrators can close threads, but that is probably not necessary. Upthread, you were shown how to use the Ignore feature. By using this, posters that you don't want to hear from become literally invisible on your end. You don't see a word they post. Also, the Mod team has already done a clean-up of inappropriate posts, which means they are watching for unnecessary drama, too.

All in, if I were you, take a deep breath and recount the story as clearly as you can. Then go back and proofread it before posting. Correct any errors. That will be a kind of fresh start, and posters will help however they can. Just keep in mind that on a skeptic's forum, details are scrutinized to give the best answer. It's up to you to provide those details clearly.
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But I think he's messing with me now. I've explained it several times and it's just not clicking, it's really frustrating
 
Matthew Ellard said:
In what magazine did you read Elon Musk talking about simulation theory? Can you remember? Was it Scientific American?
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It was online, I don't subscribe to any paper science magazines. I'll try to find it, just give me a second

Edit: I think it was this, but there are several. I can't remember where exactly, but i think it was one of those pop adds that you get on Google: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sp...-musk-living-in-simulation-rogan-podcast.html
 
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Matthew Ellard said:
What are we cutting him some slack on? If the story is totally bogus, he is simply pulling our legs?
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If he is a 14 year old with anxiety, it's totally plausible that being scatterbrained comes with the territory. I'm giving the benefit that his narration is lousy, but the events are real. Just not being relayed to us well.

I already did that. He said he "heard it from Elon Musk" and that was it.
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I've questioned him on it thrice now. It is the only thing he will not respond directly to, except to evade. Pretty sure that's the root of the discussion, with veils on it.
 
Thermal said:
If he is a 14 year old with anxiety, it's totally plausible that being scatterbrained comes with the territory. I'm giving the benefit that his narration is lousy, but the events are real. Just not being relayed to us well.



I've questioned him on it thrice now. It is the only thing he will not respond directly to, except to evade. Pretty sure that's the root of the discussion, with veils on it.
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I'll admit, I have ignored those, it just makes me so anxious that, at least right now, I don't feel comfortable talking about it.
 
Sherkeu said:
Who turned off the television?
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It is a bit odd that he posted, he had a shower and his mom turned off the TV, yet he never thought his mom might have moved the hat from his room back to the couch, while he was in the shower. Yet he immediately freaked out AGAIN and posted this story on the forum at midnight.

He could have just asked him mom.
 
Matthew Ellard said:
It is a bit odd that he posted, he had a shower and his mom turned off the TV, yet he never thought his mom might have moved the hat from his room back to the couch, while he was in the shower. Yet he immediately freaked out AGAIN and posted this story on the forum at midnight.

He could have just asked him mom.
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I did ask my mom, that's the first thing i did afted I discovered it. Thats when she said she didn't move it and no one else was in the room. I'll admit, my reaction was too soon and i should've thought it out more. Thats why, thinking now, I can understand it from your point of view, it was an overreaction and i do apologize

Edit: Misread it. I asked her after discovering the first one, I asked her yesterday about the second and she said again she didn't move it, but I should've waited to post, my mistake
 
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DebunkThisPls said:
I did ask my mom, that's the first thing i did afted I discovered it. Thats when she said she didn't move it and no one else was in the room.
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So you mum was awake and no one was in the room......but your mother turned off the TV.......and was in the room?

Try to write down a coherent story next time or hire a continuity assistant, like they do in movies.
 
Matthew Ellard said:
So you mum was awake and no one was in the room......but your mother turned off the TV.......and was in the room?

Try to write down a coherent story next time or hire a continuity assistant, like they do in movies.
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I'm saying that she left the room like right after I did, I heard her walking when I closed the bathroom door. She obviously cut the TV off and went to bed, she wasn't just sitting there. No one was in the room when I realised the hat was on the couch, but like I've said, I moved a couple times between then and the time I saw it wasn't on my bed, and then found it on the couch, where as I've said, I believe I moved it.


Edit: And it clearly says that's when she says she didn't move it and no one ELSE was in the room. She told me that, thats what she said (no joke intended)
 
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Matthew Ellard said:
Sooooooo........your mum, your nine year old sister and yourself were all in the same room?
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Ok, so we were in the room from 8-11. From 8-10, we were playing Jenga and watching TV. From 10-11, we watched a,movie. Yes, we were all in the same room. Right when the movie ended my sister went and brushed her teeth and went to bed, a couple minutes later I went to take a shower and my mom followed me maybe 15 seconds later, then she went into her room and went to sleep. When I read your question, I assumed you meant no one in the room after me
 
DebunkThisPls said:
Edit: And it clearly says that's when she says she didn't move it and no one ELSE was in the room. She told me that, thats what she said (no joke intended)
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How odd. If your mom turned off the TV set, didn't your ask her if she saw the magic Christmas hat on the couch where you are your sister were sitting?

Isn't that kind of obvious?
 
Matthew Ellard said:
How odd. If your mom turned off the TV set, didn't your ask her if she saw the magic Christmas hat on the couch where you are your sister were sitting?

Isn't that kind of obvious?
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I said that I did, a couple questions ago I said that was the first thing i asked her. She said she saw it earlier before the movie but didn't remember seeing it afterwards, nor did she move it
 
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DebunkThisPls said:
I did ask my mom, that's the first thing i did afted I discovered it. Thats when she said she didn't move it and no one else was in the room. I'll admit, my reaction was too soon and i should've thought it out more. Thats why, thinking now, I can understand it from your point of view, it was an overreaction and i do apologize

Edit: Misread it. I asked her after discovering the first one, I asked her yesterday about the second and she said again she didn't move it, but I should've waited to post, my mistake
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Right here ^, I asked if she moved it, and she said she didn't and said she didn't see it either, the specific question here was referring to me asking if she moved it, so i didn't include the latter, finding it unnecessary
 
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arthwollipot said:
Then now is the time to disengage.

Actually I think that the time to disengage was a couple of pages ago, but anyway.
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I probably should, the thing is when you hit ignore, it still says: "this message was posted by an ignored account, hit undo to see", and I always get anxious and hit it. But as I look back, I can see it from his point of view. I've made questionable posts before hand and it's fair or at least was fair at first to question me like he did. I don't totally understand why he's doing it now, since I've explained it so many times, but it's an advanced form of skepticism, it's respectable
 
DebunkThisPls said:
Right here ^, I asked if she moved it, and she said she didn't and said she didn't see it either, the specific question here was referring to me asking if she moved it, so i didn't include the latter, finding it unnecessary
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So you weren't "freaked out" when you posted the story here 20 minutes later?:p
 
Matthew Ellard said:
So you weren't "freaked out" when you posted the story here 20 minutes later?:p
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I was very freaked out, I mentioned it so many times in my original post, and in my comments here. I don't see the point of this anymore, i feel confident i know what happened, and if you don't believe me just move on. All your questions I've answered several times and you're just ignoring them
 
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DebunkThisPls said:
I probably should, the thing is when you hit ignore, it still says: "this message was posted by an ignored account, hit undo to see", and I always get anxious and hit it. But as I look back, I can see it from his point of view. I've made questionable posts before hand and it's fair or at least was fair at first to question me like he did. I don't totally understand why he's doing it now, since I've explained it so many times, but it's an advanced form of skepticism, it's respectable
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Here's a fun tip. Click on "User CP" near the top of the screen, then "Edit Options". About halfway down the screen there's a section titled "Hide ignored posts". If you set this to "Yes" then it will completely hide any posts by people on your Ignore list, so you can't be tempted to click to show them. You won't even see that they have posted.
 
DebunkThisPls said:
I was very freaked out,
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So did you tell your mom you were "very freaked out" by a magic teleporting Christmas hat, took a photo of the hat....and it transported again?

She simply turned off the TV and went to bed while you go post the story on a skeptics forum?
 
I will say here as a mother with a 12yo girl, there are many things left in the living room that get tossed into her bedroom. I do not think about it or commit such things to memory.

If she got out of the shower and found a hat on her bed, she would know that I did it. If it moved again, it could be either of us.
She doesnt remember things when she is tired. I have taken her out of her sleep in the car, woke her enough to walk inside, changed her clothes, got her to brush her teeth, and put her to bed. In the morning she has no memory of it!
 
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