Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

[Norman Alexander]

Canuckian humor, a term of endearment when you had too many brown pops.

Heh! I get it now.

 

[Norman Alexander]

NOTE: My comments for context in {} brackets

"some {voting machines} have modems that are typically disabled"

"some {modems} are temporarily activated to transmit counts"[/I]

"as you move out from election day {after all in-person voting is finished} there may be tabulators that have internet connections"
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On a technical note, modern technical equipment with modems fitted is now quite rare. There would need to be a specific reason to retain that old technology given that a standard Ethernet connection is often built into the underlying technology anyway. So why would this even be mentioned? Krebs is a knowledgeable IT tech, so there is some unstated basic knowledge behind this.

First, modems create unshared point-to-point communication links to one other modem, unlike Ethernet connections. This link is (usually) quite secure, unlike trans-Internet communications. The protocols across this link do not have to be TCP/IP, nor Ethernet, nor even packet-based. They may be proprietary including encryption.

Second, for voting tabulator data to be transferred to a central point, it would be desirable to have a fast but really secure method of doing that, able to be used when required. A modem-based method using encryption fits that bill. An Internet connect, far less so.

In short, by using modems, the data collection can bypass the Internet entirely. It never even went there.

So this is why Krebs specifically mentioned the modems being disabled, then enabled and used later. I expect that voting data was transmitted securely to a central location by enabling and using the modem in the tabulators, bypassing the Internet.

 

[eerok]

Once again Bubba's sources are in fact sources of BS. This is getting tedious.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Once again Bubba's sources are in fact sources of BS. This is getting tedious.

It's Presidential.

 

[turingtest]

OK, lets examine this claim




Now, instead of just looking at the carefully cherry-picked sound-bite posted by your so called "source", lets listen to what Chris Krebs actually said at the hearing....

https://youtu.be/xHtobbugTJU?t=4073

NOTE: My comments for context in {} brackets

"some {voting machines} have modems that are typically disabled"

"some {modems} are temporarily activated to transmit counts"

"as you move out from election day {after all in-person voting is finished} there may be tabulators that have internet connections"
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Your source deliberately left those parts out to make it seem like he said something different to what he was actually talking about. I wonder why that is?

How do you think the totals from each machine get to where they need to go to compile the election results? Carrier pigeon? Bike messenger? Some guy calls them in with a phone?

Perhaps you should try getting your information from real sources, like these...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/...ncing-a-reckless-disinformation-campaign.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-gwinnett-dominion-idUSKBN28C1OL

On a technical note, modern technical equipment with modems fitted is now quite rare. There would need to be a specific reason to retain that old technology given that a standard Ethernet connection is often built into the underlying technology anyway. So why would this even be mentioned? Krebs is a knowledgeable IT tech, so there is some unstated basic knowledge behind this.

First, modems create unshared point-to-point communication links to one other modem, unlike Ethernet connections. This link is (usually) quite secure, unlike trans-Internet communications. The protocols across this link do not have to be TCP/IP, nor Ethernet, nor even packet-based. They may be proprietary including encryption.

Second, for voting tabulator data to be transferred to a central point, it would be desirable to have a fast but really secure method of doing that, able to be used when required. A modem-based method using encryption fits that bill. An Internet connect, far less so.

In short, by using modems, the data collection can bypass the Internet entirely. It never even went there.

So this is why Krebs specifically mentioned the modems being disabled, then enabled and used later. I expect that voting data was transmitted securely to a central location by enabling and using the modem in the tabulators, bypassing the Internet.

Once again Bubba's sources are in fact sources of BS. This is getting tedious.

Simplistic and superficial BS, to be exact- just the sort of thing to appeal to a mind that's all surface, that feeds on talking points, but doesn't have the will to dive a little deeper to find (or try to understand) any refutations of them. So, for all certain people sneering at critics who are afraid to watch their precious two-hour videos, it turns out to be those people who won't take the time or make the effort to actually get to the details that explode them.

There's a lot of resemblance to creationists endlessly repeating things like "the odds are umpty-quadrillion to one against evolution!" and other such nonsense. Talking points are for repetition, not comprehension- ironically, like Tweets. "Dead people voted! Internet connections!" "No, here's why that's wrong-" "DEAD PEOPLE VOTED!"

 

[pgwenthold]

This belongs in this thread.

There is a rumor going around that when the Texas case came up to the SC, that someone could hear Roberts yelling through the chambers walls, and that Roberts and the other liberal judges bullied the court into not taking the case. Not just an internet rumor, because it was reported by a Texas Trump elector on the floor of the Texas legislature (I think). It was broadcast on CSPAN.

Of course, the problem is that the SC judges are not actually meeting "in chambers" and have been meeting remotely since last March or so. None of them have been in the building.

But hey, that doesn't stop someone from completely making it up, and for other morons to spread it around.

And speaking of making things up, the Kraken has submitted another case to the SC, this time baselessly claiming in brief that the legislatures of MiWiAzPa (I think those are the 4) all approved an alternate GOP set of electors. Meanwhile, the majority leaders in both houses in Michigan denied it, and, to be fair, it would be hard to do since none of the claimed legislatures are in session so therefore can't approve anything. But reality means nothing to her.

Granted, this lawsuit is going nowhere (it's an appeal of a lower court ruling but has bypassed the actual appeals courts and gone straight to the SC), and because it won't even get heard, she won't face consequences, but it's amazing how blatantly they will just flat out lie. To the supreme court.

 

[eerok]

And speaking of making things up, the Kraken has submitted another case to the SC, this time baselessly claiming in brief that the legislatures of MiWiAzPa (I think those are the 4) all approved an alternate GOP set of electors. Meanwhile, the majority leaders in both houses in Michigan denied it, and, to be fair, it would be hard to do since none of the claimed legislatures are in session so therefore can't approve anything. But reality means nothing to her.

QFT ... I'd love to see some courts lose their tolerance for this POS and sanction her into oblivion. What a waste of time and money, not to speak of other damage.

 

[trustbutverify]

Roughly

Trump math?

 

[trustbutverify]

QFT ... I'd love to see some courts lose their tolerance for this POS and sanction her into oblivion. What a waste of time and money, not to speak of other damage.

In a country with a reasonable criminal code, Powell would never have even considered this course of action.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Is there such a thing as a vexatious litigant charge for the Supreme Court? I don't see why not. But then, I understand the SC can pick and choose the cases it will hear, based on relevance. I'm also sure they get hundreds of loonies all the time trying to get their day in court besides the cracked Kraken team, and they will all get politely binned via a form-letter. So this is probably the fate of the latest Kraken effort - obscurity.

 

[Resume]

There's a little sumpin' sumpin' heading Crazy Sidney's way.

Attorneys for Dominion Voting Systems sent a letter to Sidney Powell, a onetime member of President Trump’s legal team, demanding she retract her claims that the voting machine company helped rig the 2020 election.

The letter, from the Alexandria, Va.-based law firm Clare Locke, warns Powell that she will expose both herself and the Trump campaign to “substantial legal risk for defamation” if she refuses to publicly recant the many unsubstantiated claims she has made about the company.

“As a result of your false accusations, Dominion has suffered enormous harm, and its employees have been stalked, have been harassed, and have received death threats,” the letter states. “We demand that you immediately and publicly retract your false accusations and set the record straight. If you refuse to do so and instead choose to stand by your defamatory falsehoods, that will be viewed as additional evidence of actual malice.”

I'm sure there'll be more, including sanctions, coming for this idiot.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Who wrote this?

Miranda Devine, opinion piece in the New York Post, 9th of December. Why do you ask?

More specifically, Miranda Devine, an extreme conservative, who writes opinions for Rupert Murdoch's papers in Australia, that Murdoch syndicates to his papers in the USA.

She apologised in print, after the New York Post had to settle for a racist comment she wrote and they published.

The New York Post is owned by Murdoch and still pushing the Hunter Biden fantasy.

 

[trustbutverify]

There's a little sumpin' sumpin' heading Crazy Sidney's way.



I'm sure there'll be more, including sanctions, coming for this idiot.

There should be massive class action suits for slander on behalf of hundreds of litigants, against Trump, his campaign, legal team and other various screaming heads.

 

[eerok]

More info on Dominion's defence against Powell's BS:

Legal Experts Explain Defamation Lawsuit Threat Made by Dominion Voting Systems Against Sidney Powell [lawandcrime.com]

Conservative attorney Sidney Powell and her legal team have been spreading a series of false statements and bizarre accusations against elections systems vendors via court filings and during various media appearances in service of their failed Kraken lawsuits. While privileges afforded to lawyers in most states suggest Powell doesn’t have much to worry about regarding her pleadings, her out-of-court appearances could be another question entirely.

 

[eerok]

On the subject of nutbar lawyers out of control:

Supreme Smear: Lin Wood Goes Full Q in Bonkers Tweets Telling 800,000-Plus Followers That Chief Justice Roberts Called Trump a ‘Motherf***er’ on a Phone Call [lawandcrime.com]

Just when you thought you had seen it all from various figures litigating and going off the deep end in the aftermath of the 2020 election, attorney Lin Wood told his 800,000-plus Twitter followers on Thursday that Chief Justice John Roberts said during a phone call in August that President Donald Trump is a “” who could not be allowed to have another term.

How can these idiots even be lawyers in America?

 

[Norman Alexander]

Wood is even more certifiable than Trump and even Sidney Powell. And that's saying something!

 

[BazBear]

I'd bet even conservative icons such as Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater would be spinnin' in their graves like rotisserie chickens, were such a thing possible, if they knew about this **** show attempted coup, dressed up as right wing patriotism.

However, Joe McCarthy would approve.

 

[trustbutverify]

I'd bet even conservative icons such as Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater would be spinnin' in their graves like rotisserie chickens, were such a thing possible, if they knew about this **** show attempted coup, dressed up as right wing patriotism.

However, Joe McCarthy would approve.

As would Roy Cohn. Not a coincidence.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Wood is even more certifiable than Trump and even Sidney Powell. And that's saying something!

Imagine if the USA had our former High Court judge, Michael Kirby on their Supreme court. The Q-Anon loonies would explode.

(Justice Kirby is openly gay with a long term partner. Kirby was a taxation law expert and neither conservative or leftist in his sensible legal reasoning. In Australia, all judges are required to step down at 70 and are not political appointments )

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

I'd bet even conservative icons such as Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater would be spinnin' in their graves like rotisserie chickens, were such a thing possible, if they knew about this **** show attempted coup, dressed up as right wing patriotism.

However, Joe McCarthy would approve.

Let's see what Richard Nixon had to say when he was narrowly defeated in 1960 and, as Vice President, oversaw the counting of votes.

This is the first time in 100 years that a candidate for the Presidency announced the result of an election in which he was defeated and announced the victory of his opponent. I do not think we could have a more striking and eloquent example of the stability of our constitutional system and of the proud tradition of the American people of developing, respecting, and honoring institutions of self-government.

In our campaigns, no matter how hard fought they may be, no matter how close the election may turn out to be, those who lose accept the verdict, and support those who win. And I would like to add that, having served now in Government for 14 years, a period which began in the House just 14 years ago, almost to the day, which continued with 2 years in the Senate and 8 years as Vice President, as I complete that 14-year period it is indeed a very great honor to me to extend to my colleagues in the House and Senate on both sides of the aisle who have been elected; to extend to John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, who have been elected President and Vice President of the United States, my heartfelt best wishes, as all of you work in a cause that is bigger than any man's ambition, greater than any party. It is the cause of freedom, of justice, and peace for all mankind.