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All appliances in house go out in power outage but not the digital clocks?

Years ago, before we owned mobile phones or credit cards, one evening I stopped at a gas station, had to go inside to pay, came back out and drove away. After five miles I realized my wife wasn't in the car with me.

While I'd been paying, she had gone to the women's room.

She was waiting for me, not happy. I apologized for forgetting her but explained that for five miles, something hadn't been nagging at me.

It took me five hours to walk home.
 
Yes, it's creepy. But only because you don't know anything about how electronic devices work.


"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke


Electronic devices can do many peculiar things when they fail. If you don't understand how they work then it may seem like 'magic' because the cause and effect is so unintuitive. But those of us who design and repair electronic devices know that no matter how weird the symptom there is always a rational explanation. We know because we have to deal with it every day.

Types of power outage

Your description of the power outage suggests a combination of transient fault and brownout. This may have been caused by a short circuit somewhere in the grid, perhaps due to power lines blowing in the wind or a car crashing into a power pole. When this happens the grid voltage will sag due the high current in the short, then overload breakers will trip to isolate the fault and try to reroute power to other parts of the grid. The power at your location may momentarily drop to a low voltage, then rise above the normal voltage as the fault is cleared and load reduced.

Most modern electronic devices such as clocks, TVs etc. convert the AC mains to a lower DC voltage via a transformer and rectifier. But the rectified DC still has the AC sine wave impressed on it, so a large capacitor is used to hold the voltage up during the 'troughs' of the waveform. Depending on how much current the device uses, the capacitor may take anywhere from a few tenths of a second to several seconds or even minutes to fully discharge. At some point the voltage will go too low for the device to work properly, and then it will either misoperate or stop working altogether.

Many modern devices contain digital electronics which has undefined operation when the voltage is too low, so they include a brownout reset circuit that operates before the voltage gets too low. Because power outages are a thing, devices which need to maintain their state often have a backup battery, super capacitor, or nonvolatile memory to store important information while the power is off. However even devices that don't have such backup circuits may (unreliably) hold their state for a few seconds due to internal capacitance.

Electronics is a broad and complex field, but it is all very well defined by mathematics and logic. It is also a fascinating subject that anyone with a reasonably logical mind can learn. But no matter how much you learn it's still magic - the magic of technology.

I know it's been two weeks since you posted this, and I appreciate all your answers. I'm still not sure exactly how it happened though. Most of what you said makes it seem like it should've gone out with the TVs, or its possible for it to survive, but very unlikely so it happening twice seems nearly impossible
 
Dude, you need to become comfortable with this answer "I don't know exactly how this odd thing happened, but I do know it wasn't magic." Because it's never magic. It's never the law of attraction, it's never a simulation, it's never a sign, it never has a deeper meaning. We're all just adrift in a massive universe. Simple statistics dictate that coincidences and oddities will occur alongside all the everyday stuff.

When I got myself to truly understand that, it was the happiest day of my life. It's comforting to realize that nobody is driving the proverbial bus.
 
Dude, you need to become comfortable with this answer "I don't know exactly how this odd thing happened, but I do know it wasn't magic." Because it's never magic. It's never the law of attraction, it's never a simulation, it's never a sign, it never has a deeper meaning. We're all just adrift in a massive universe. Simple statistics dictate that coincidences and oddities will occur alongside all the everyday stuff.

When I got myself to truly understand that, it was the happiest day of my life. It's comforting to realize that nobody is driving the proverbial bus.

That does actually help me, a lot. The ONLY thing I'm still not 100% sure about is why the room appeared brighter though. Everyone here said that was nearly impossible, so how could it have happened?
 
I know it's been two weeks since you posted this, and I appreciate all your answers. I'm still not sure exactly how it happened though. Most of what you said makes it seem like it should've gone out with the TVs, or its possible for it to survive, but very unlikely so it happening twice seems nearly impossible

That last sentence, to me, makes no sense at all. If there was a good reason for a thing happening once, then when the conditions repeat, the surprise would be if it did not happen again!

I live in an area where power failures are common, and follow various, relatively consistent scenarios, and the consistent behavior of various clocks is the very way we can know, after an absence, how the power has behaved.

If the microwave clock is blinking but the stove clock is not, we had a blip.

If the stove clock is blinking but the VCR is not, we had a short interruption.

If the VCR clock is blinking, we had a real outage.

If I wanted to bother, I could probably even figure out how long an outage has lasted. We have an alarm clock with a battery backup which stays going for some time, but loses time when on battery. If I compared the visible time with the real time from a battery clock, I could likely compute the number of hours it was off. I don't bother with that. It's enough, really, to look at the now-inaccurate alarm clock and say "wow, it was off for a long time."

But the point is that if such consistencies did not occur, that is what would be extraordinary.

e.t.a. as for the room appearing brighter, aside from the difficulty of judgment, there are actual, measurable, common reasons for this, as I think have been explained. Power failures are often complex, and may involve branches of a large circuit being disconnected and causing power surges that occur faster than the equipment can compensate, or that are compensated for by the opening of a breaker and blackout.
 
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It's comforting to realize that nobody is driving the proverbial bus.
I've got a friend who once expressed a kind of Deism, saying that the idea that someone or something had everything in hand was comforting. I replied that if there is someone or something controlling everything that happened in the world, they're doing a really **** job. He paused for a moment, and then said "You know what? Yeah, you're right."
 
I've got a friend who once expressed a kind of Deism, saying that the idea that someone or something had everything in hand was comforting. I replied that if there is someone or something controlling everything that happened in the world, they're doing a really **** job. He paused for a moment, and then said "You know what? Yeah, you're right."

I was going to make a thread but you're the most helpful person I've met here, so I'll just ask you. I really need an answer from a skeptic. This just happened about 20 minutes ago. I had a Santa hat that I left on the couch. It was there for maybe 2 hours, at least I know for a fact it was, and walked in and out of the living room several times between 8-10. But at around 10, i started watching a movie with my sister. I was on the couch the whole time, didn't move once. I am 99.999% sure the Santa hat was beside me. I have a memory of looking at it, in the dark with the TV on. The room was only dark during the movie, when I didn't move, and I haven't had the hat since the first when I put it in the closet by mistake and just never felt like getting it. Ok, but the big part is that I walked into my bedroom at around 11 when the movie was over (it was a TV special but same thing) I saw it sitting on my bed. Now, between 8-10 I walked into my room at least 5-10 times. I don't have a memory of moving it, and my sister nor my mom saw me do so, but it is possible I moved it and forgot about it, which I've doing a lot recently. Yet that doesn't explain why I remember seeing it. It's really, really, scaring me. I'm kinda freaking out right now, and I know I can't get a definitive answer, I just could really use some speculation about this

Edit: Now that I think about it, between 8-10, the last time that I know for a fact that I saw it, I only got up once, and I did go in that area, but I don't remember walking over far enough to grab rhe hat, as I wouldve had to walk over at least another 5-10 feet
 
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I've got a friend who once expressed a kind of Deism, saying that the idea that someone or something had everything in hand was comforting. I replied that if there is someone or something controlling everything that happened in the world, they're doing a really **** job. He paused for a moment, and then said "You know what? Yeah, you're right."

I'm literally shaking in fear. I swear I had it ten minutes ago next to me in my room, now its back on the couch. I do think I moved there once or twice but I thought I left it next to me
 
I'm literally shaking in fear. I swear I had it ten minutes ago next to me in my room, now its back on the couch. I do think I moved there once or twice but I thought I left it next to me
The first thing to remember is to calm down. Nothing is going to hurt you. I don't know what the explanation is for this, but remember what Butter! said. It's not magic. Something happened, sure. But whatever it was, it wasn't supernatural.
 
Eastern, we were playing Jenga at these times for a while, and then started the movie at 10. I then saw it in my room at around 11
 
...it is possible I moved it and forgot about it, which I've doing a lot recently.
Have you spoken to a doctor about this? If there has been a sudden increase in the number of times that you may have done something and not remembered it, it might be worth running it past a medical professional. Do not take medical advice from strangers on the internet.
 
The first thing to remember is to calm down. Nothing is going to hurt you. I don't know what the explanation is for this, but remember what Butter! said. It's not magic. Something happened, sure. But whatever it was, it wasn't supernatural.

I'm trying to calm down a little. I still think it's possible I misremebered in the first, as I remember parts during the movie when I moved my arm or looked at an area close to that and didn't see anything, which if there was a hat there I should've. But I still don't remember moving it, it's possible I did, I just don't know when I did. But the second one that just happened, I don't even know. I don't think i moved there with it and im pretty sure I left it there when I did move
 
Have you spoken to a doctor about this? If there has been a sudden increase in the number of times that you may have done something and not remembered it, it might be worth running it past a medical professional. Do not take medical advice from strangers on the internet.

I have, and thats why a lot of these have been explainable, but this one is so much more advanced then just memory
 
It is yes, for the first one, my dad was in my parents room and my mom was in the living room with us. She remembers seeing the hat at around 9:30, which is around the only time I couldve moved it to my room. For the second one, they were both in the living room, but my dad was towards the hallway and I was talking to my mom. I asked her and she said she doesn't remember seeing me hold it or see it as she walked back into her room, but she also said she never really looked in that area, as she was distracted by moving our elf on the shelf for my sister to find
 
I have, and thats why a lot of these have been explainable, but this one is so much more advanced then just memory
Okay, I wanted to run that past you just in case.

Here's my suggestion. Remember, don't take medical advice from strangers on the internet.

Keep a diary of occasions when this sort of thing occurs. Write down what happened, what time it was, and what you were doing at the time. Leave a space below each one. If you do happen to work out what occurred, write it in the space. But only if you're sure.
 
Okay, I wanted to run that past you just in case.

Here's my suggestion. Remember, don't take medical advice from strangers on the internet.

Keep a diary of occasions when this sort of thing occurs. Write down what happened, what time it was, and what you were doing at the time. Leave a space below each one. If you do happen to work out what occurred, write it in the space. But only if you're sure.

I'll be sure to do this. But before it's been times when I know I was right next to the object and couldve picked it up, here I wouldve had to go out of my way, forget about it, and have a hallucination/ false memory and for the second one I wouldve had to move stuff, climb on my bed and pick it up and move it, then forget about it without two adults noticing. Plus I wouldve had to have a maybe fake memory of me seeing it before cutting off my lights (since I was in bed the whole time after that, although I do think that, even if it was in my room, is a fake memory, because I wouldve only seen it out of the corner of my eye and i probably wouldn't have acknowleged it).
 
I'll be sure to do this. But before it's been times when I know I was right next to the object and couldve picked it up, here I wouldve had to go out of my way, forget about it, and have a hallucination/ false memory and for the second one I wouldve had to move stuff, climb on my bed and pick it up and move it, then forget about it without two adults noticing. Plus I wouldve had to have a maybe fake memory of me seeing it before cutting off my lights (since I was in bed the whole time after that, although I do think that, even if it was in my room, is a fake memory, because I wouldve only seen it out of the corner of my eye and i probably wouldn't have acknowleged it).
Sure. Let's switch to the new thread.
 

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