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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 26

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TragicMonkey said:
Their kid turns 18 in four years, I think she's waiting until then to divorce him. That would remove the possibility of him using custody arrangements as a weapon in a divorce.
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If there were to be a custody battle, Trump would need much better attorneys that he has currently employed.

Actually, I'm sure he does; they just demurred participation in the election fraud, fraud. Disbarment and all that.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Their kid turns 18 in four years, I think she's waiting until then to divorce him. That would remove the possibility of him using custody arrangements as a weapon in a divorce.
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Undoubtedly there's money attached to the number of years of marriage. But I'd bet a divorce is coming with Barron's 18th birthday too.
 
Divorce never bothered Donny. Wives are just trophies anyway, and as they tarnish so they can be replaced by newer models. He can buy another one anywhere. There's whole stadiums of them come to his rallies for a start.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Divorce never bothered Donny. Wives are just trophies anyway, and as they tarnish so they can be replaced by newer models. He can buy another one anywhere. There's whole stadiums of them come to his rallies for a start.
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He makes Henry the Eight look like an amateur.
 
dudalb said:
He makes Henry the Eight look like an amateur.
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Oh, come now.
You make it sound like he hates sharing his assets so much that if he could, he would have his wives murdered.

If that were true, we’d see ... I mean, sure he ... But that
level of sociopathy is ....



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Blue Mountain said:
I wonder if little shenanigans like this happen with every election, but for this one the media are reporting them instead of ignoring them?
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Possible, in the sense of being effectively impossible to prove something either way with a supposition that there wouldn't be evidence even if the case. I'd say that it's very unlikely that something meaningfully equivalent has been happening. For reference, usually, the candidate who has fairly certainly lost will concede, though, and thus the matter will be effectively settled in the mind of the public long, long before. Trump gets a little bit of a grace period because of COVID causing mail-in ballots to surge in swing states that were not well prepared for such and the closeness of the election, but it's long past that grace period, by this point.



Separately, to poke at what RolandRat quoted a bit...

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"Since his defeat, Trump’s supporters have retreated into a world of denial and conspiracy theories. But if we on the left are going to mock them for their delusions, we should take a look at how we think — and obsess — about the president ourselves.

Trump is exactly as weak as he appears. He has no surprise tactics up his sleeve. He does all his scheming in public. During the Russia investigation, many of us assumed there must be some secret dealings beneath the surface of what he clumsily said and did on television. There were none.
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A bit of a mischaracterization, I'd say. Trump and co certainly tried and actively worked to cover up - and Trump Tower Moscow certainly counts as an example of a secret dealing. Add to that that more direct investigation of Trump-Russia was apparently killed by Rosenstein all along, both for Mueller and the FBI, and the ground that that rests on gets even less steady. Trump is weak and not very intelligent, to be kind - but, to Godwin things a bit... Hitler was very similar to Trump, personality-wise. Many of the dangers that Trump has posed all along have little to do with his personal capabilities - or are made more dangerous by his weaknesses.

RolandRat said:
The same goes for his incoherent, hapless court cases. This really is all he’s got.

Until the transition began, I myself worried that Trump would somehow get the Supreme Court to reverse the election for him. I never dreamed he’d bring a case so half-baked, and bungle it so badly, that the Supreme Court wouldn’t even hear it. He’d been bluffing all along — he was never a powerful fascist who had bent the judiciary to his will. Even on the left, he had us all conned.
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Us all? Hmm? This is off by more than a little. Much of the point of getting Trump out NOW was to PREVENT Trump from becoming such a figure, because it sure looks like our country is in a far, far more dangerous situation than we like. There were fears that it might already be too late, of course, but "conned?" No. Had we been conned, voter turnout would fairly certainly have been significantly depressed, rather than dramatically higher than usual.


RolandRat said:
As we try to make sense of what happened these past four years, maybe it’s more comforting to think of Trump as an evil wizard than as a pathetic faker with debatable mental health problems.
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Again, calling Hitler a pathetic faker with mental health problems would probably not be off the mark. The atrocities that he caused are no less horrible for that. No need to think of Trump as a wizard at all.

RolandRat said:
Sums Trump up nicely I think.
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In some ways, perhaps, but it rather feels like it's throwing misdirection, disinformation (albeit potentially unintentionally), and problematic assumptions in quite a lot. More than enough to make me suspicious about the actual intentions of the writer.
 
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"Trump wasn't that bad because we stopped the worst things he wanted to do and never got to see many of the bad things he did" is a weird effort to rehabilitate his image.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
"Trump wasn't that bad because we stopped the worst things he wanted to do and never got to see many of the bad things he did" is a weird effort to rehabilitate his image.
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True enough. Still, your focus here on Trump is probably misplaced. It looks more to me like a fake left downplay for the sake of more general extremist right-wing narrative control. "We were all over-reacting all along! <insert right-wing disinformation "proof"> Weakling Trump wasn't actually a serious threat, so let's be rational and not over-react like that in the future!" is a cheap way to try to pave the way for their next attempt. I suppose I could add the point that the quote starts with something that's easy to agree with, even if it's a little off, and ends with something that's easy to agree with. Starting in agreement and ending in agreement is one of the most useful tactics when it comes to swaying people, IIRC.
 
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Trump Retweeted

Breitbart News
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@Franklin_Graham: "President Trump will go down in history as one of the great presidents of our nation... May God bless him, Melania, and their family, as God leads him to the next chapter in his life."
Franklin Graham: ‘I Am Grateful to God’ for ‘the Last Four Years’
Franklin Graham said he is grateful for the last four years, and what Donald Trump has done for Americans who stand for life and freedom.
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The Great Zaganza said:
"Trump wasn't that bad because we stopped the worst things he wanted to do and never got to see many of the bad things he did" is a weird effort to rehabilitate his image.
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Yeah but it's exactly what the Trumpers are going to spend the next few years doing.

Remember the only sin they recognize is "being dramatic."
 
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Trump Tweets



Can’t believe how badly @FoxNews is doing in the ratings. They played right into the hands of the Radical Left Democrats, & now are floating in limboland. Hiring fired @donnabraziIe, and far worse, allowing endless negative and unedited commercials.
@FoxNews is dead. Really Sad!
 
dudalb said:
Still waiting for Trump's reaction to Mcconell's declaring BIden will be the next POTUS. Going to be interesting...
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Not Trump, but right-wing media is on the attack.

Charlie Kirk raged on his podcast, "You typically don't use the term 'congratulations' when someone just stole a bank — stole money from a bank." The Gateway Pundit accused him of "supporting election fraud" and questioned his wife's dealings with China. An OANN host said he would "regret revealing his own corruption in less than 30 days." Sebastian Gorka said he had "cave[d] to the mob." Mark Levin bashed him and said it's "time for some fresh thinking and new blood."
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If Trump wants to move to Mar-a-Lago, he's going to have a fight on his hands:

Trump's Mar-a-Lago neighbors don't want him to move there. They may be able to stop him, too.
Trump's Mar-a-Lago neighbors sent a letter to the town of Palm Beach and the Secret Service on Tuesday demanding that the town notify Trump he can't reside at Mar-a-Lago because he signed away that right in 1993, the Post reports...

Trump converted Mar-a-Lago into a private club in 1993 because he needed the money and the estate was expensive to maintain, the Post reports, but in order to get approval for the transformation, Palm Beach made him sign an agreement that no club member could stay at Mar-a-Lago more than 21 days a year or seven consecutive days, among other restrictions. His attorney promised at the time that Trump would not live at Mar-a-Lago.
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