Rebekah Jones house raid for "security breach"

BobTheCoward said:
It isn't clear if she is a whistleblower.

She does not appear to allege they broke the law. She has a policy disagreement.
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Florida has very few good things about it, in terms of governance, but it does have a very expansive public records law. Don't assume that no law was broken here.
 
Bob001 said:
Way down the Miami Herald story, there's this:
The fact that the state is now in possession of her laptops and cell phone will expose her sources, Jones said.

“The most damning stuff that they are going to get from that equipment is the information about all of the employees from the state who have talked to me over the last six months,” Jones said. “And, the fact that I promised them I would never tell anybody who they were, or where they worked and I have failed to protect them, really f-----g pissed me off.”
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So the state is really going after anybody who gave her information.
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It looks like the article got updated since the first time I opened it as I totally missed those paragraphs & several others (IIRC, it had a 'developing story' note at the end when I first saw it which was even before Skeptic Ginger linked to it). In fact, I had it opened on a different tab and I could'e even fins the word "expose" until I refreshed the tab.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Is she alleging that they violated public records law?
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I know there's some sort of a lawsuit variously described as a whistleblower complaint (also alluded to in the article Skeptic Ginger linked). She is alleging that the state tried to alter what information was being released (presumably at the direction of DeSantis) or something like that. However, I have no idea if it is meant to explicitly suggest a violation of sunshine laws.
 
smartcooky said:
Or, she wanted to get her family upstairs, out of the way, and safe before letting a bunch of "shoot first & ask questions later" cops came into her house.
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Might have been trying to get a hold of a lawyer too. I would try to do so.

And that fact that it doesn't seem she took any extraordinary steps to encrypt or hide what she was doing goes to show she wasn't trying to be a hacker or even had a long term plan. She was just trying to get important info out as fast as she could.
 
rockinkt said:
"Ms. Jones refused to come to the door for 20 minutes and hung-up on agents. After several attempts and verbal notifications that law enforcement officers were there to serve a legal search warrant, Ms. Jones eventually came to the door and allowed agents to enter," Plessinger said. "Ms. Jones' family was upstairs when agents made entry into the home."

Sounds like she is quite the diva and wanted to make a big scene in an attempt to paint herself as a victim.

IMHO - If you are going to do something in protest that is illegal and has the potential to cause major problems - at least have the integrity to not whine and put on a show of faux outrage when your chickens come home to roost.
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I'm assuming she took the time to set up the video recordings. As for being a diva, it's not a bad strategy for her. It messages a potential jury pool and gets her national attention, pushing the prosecutors on the defensive. Now, to convince hold-out jurors, the prosecutor needs to prove the negative that this was not a political witch hunt.
 
BobTheCoward said:
It isn't clear if she is a whistleblower.

She does not appear to allege they broke the law. She has a policy disagreement.
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Of course, you already know that a whistleblower does not necessarily blow the whistle on lawbreaking. They can also blow the whistle on immoral (but otherwise legal) conduct. If De Santis pressured her to monkey with the Covid numbers, that might be moral scumbaggery, but I'm not sure what laws it would break.
 
Wiki is worth a read. I wondered what it meant that she was a scientist. She has a dual master's degree and was working on her doctorate.

The footage of the raid was from a home security cam, not a cam that needed to be set up. Not sure how the feed cut off.

She herself believes the hardware seizures were to search her contacts in the health department.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Good job, that's exactly the generalising and dehumanization that the US needs right now. Can only lead to good things down the road.
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You’re right. Let them kick you nineteen times in the teeth, they will surely see the error of their ways before the twentieth kick.

It’s important to never resist.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Good job, that's exactly the generalising and dehumanization that the US needs right now. Can only lead to good things down the road.
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Yep the police in Norway clearly approach all people with guns drawn and ready to kill at the drop of a hat. That is normal and natural for all police everywhere.
 
From https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/florida-posted-the-password-to-a-key-disaster-system-on-its-website/:
A link to the manual was shared in a Reddit thread discussing the raid on Jones' house, which multiple Ars readers flagged to us. (Thanks!) We are choosing not to share a direct link, but as of publication time, the link was still live and working.

The document is a guideline for ESF-8 logistics staff. The first section includes a list of tasks management needs to complete in certain given periods. The second section includes a list of systems log-in information along with points of contact for each of those systems if they should be needed. It's the kind of information anyone who has worked in an administrative or support role for any organization has likely had on hand—for internal use only.
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I think even if the security is "here are the passwords, please don't use them if you are not authorized" it's still going to be a crime, however.
 
cosmicaug said:
From https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/florida-posted-the-password-to-a-key-disaster-system-on-its-website/:


I think even if the security is "here are the passwords, please don't use them if you are not authorized" it's still going to be a crime, however.
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A crime like 'unauthorized use of government equipment'?

Anyone who takes a paperclip home from the office is legitimately liable to have their home stormed at gunpoint by the cops and having their possessions removed.

Sounds like Amerika.
 
quadraginta said:
A crime like 'unauthorized use of government equipment'?

Anyone who takes a paperclip home from the office is legitimately liable to have their home stormed at gunpoint by the cops and having their possessions removed.

Sounds like Amerika.
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Sure. A crime like that as well as "hacking" (whatever that falls under) since none of that is going to rely on how hard the "hacking" is to do.

I'm not saying anything about it, neither the execution of the raid, nor the likely political motivation of all of this, is right. We also should be highly skeptical about the notion that this message was endangering public safety (which is the story that has been pushed since November when this came out).

It's also worth pointing out that the IPv6 addresses tracked would likely be traceable to something at the level of the home router. If that's all they have & they get no confession, there's certainly enough reasonable doubt there since someone using their wifi most likely cannot be ruled out in court.
 
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