Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 26

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They'd either follow Biden's orders, or not do anything at all. This idea that the Old Boss will just show up and act like he's still in charge is nonsense. Every government employee will be aware that the new President has been sworn in, and won't just ignore that.
If there is some small cabal of high-level officials who try to pull this off, and the civilian law enforcement agencies refuse to do anything about that, then these officials and the law enforcement agencies supporting them will be in de facto rebellion against the lawful government of the United States. And kicking a bunch of rebels out of government facilities that they're illegally occupying is exactly a job for the US military.

And enough members of the FBI and USSS are former military that they'll know exactly what will happen to them if they make the Army storm the Whitehouse or some other Washington facility. The USSS may be heavily armed when compared to your average police force, but they'll melt like snow on a stove top when the military takes them on.

I imagine he'll handle it like George Costanza did when he heard he was about to be fired. He blocked his office door and found a secret way in. He kept "working" for several days because nobody could get in to fire him in person.

And I'm sure The PDJT could set up a nice napping nook under the Resolute Desk. (Yes, I know -- different episode, different job.)
 
I think the worst-case scenario would be that Trump squats in the WH. Biden takes up temporary office in whatever emergency facility MUST exist, and everyone waits till Trump comes out on his own account ... or starves.

Hans
 
My post with emphasis added by Horatius:
My point is - there might be no useful orders for Biden to give to the military.

If Trump stays in the White House, it would not be up to the military to evict him, that's a role of a civilian department - currently headed by loyal Trump appointees.

If Trump's cabinet officials retain possession of their offices and continue to give orders to the civilian bureaucracy, there may be no role in the military for ending that.

If civilians in Government agencies get orders from two sets of bosses, one of which (Biden's team) can't access agency buildings or electronic communications - who do they follow? There is no role for the military to resolve that.

They'd either follow Biden's orders, or not do anything at all. This idea that the Old Boss will just show up and act like he's still in charge is nonsense. Every government employee will be aware that the new President has been sworn in, and won't just ignore that.

If there is some small cabal of high-level officials who try to pull this off, and the civilian law enforcement agencies refuse to do anything about that, then these officials and the law enforcement agencies supporting them will be in de facto rebellion against the lawful government of the United States. And kicking a bunch of rebels out of government facilities that they're illegally occupying is exactly a job for the US military.

And enough members of the FBI and USSS are former military that they'll know exactly what will happen to them if they make the Army storm the Whitehouse or some other Washington facility. The USSS may be heavily armed when compared to your average police force, but they'll melt like snow on a stove top when the military takes them on.


You emphasized the wrong point here. I am not advocating disaster porn, I don't think any of this would actually happen - but I also see no role for the military in ensuring the transition of civilian government. The emphasis goes more like this:

If civilians in Government agencies get orders from two sets of bosses, one of which (Biden's team) can't access agency buildings or electronic communications - who do they follow? There is no role for the military to resolve that.


I agree that the civilian bureaucrats would follow Biden's orders - but in such a hypothetical situation, that could be delayed if Biden's teams lacked access to facilities and communications. One team would be sending out emails and instant messaging from govvie accounts, the other team using gmail accounts, no access to internal instant messaging, not knowing cell numbers to reach agency employees working from home. Both sides citing laws and legalese as reason why gov employees should only listen to "our" side, not the "other" side, with threats to those who don't comply. Gov employees getting emails from gmail or other civilian email accounts giving them orders, signed by people they might never have heard of - yet those unknown people with the civilian accounts might actually be the legitimate leadership.

That won't happen, part of the transition process (which GSA is currently enacting) is that senior officials get access to such accounts functional on day one. But if a sitting outgoing loser President and his cabinet and other appointees went full refusenik (preventing GSA from enabling pre-inauguration transition activities*, going so far as to go judge shopping until they find one willing to swear in fake-POTUS for a second term), the role of the military in ensuring transition of civilian departments would be limited to none. The transition would happen anyway, but not through military force. It would be a muddled and slow and confusing transition, devoid of military involvement.


I really don't see a role for the military in this. If we open the door to using the military to ensure post-election transition, we may not get that door closed again.


* In our modern system, the keys to power are held by the IT staff setting up (or removing) email and network profiles, granting (or denying) access to clouds and servers and instant messaging, activating (or deactivating) card keys needed to log into the computers also granting access to buildings. In a disputed transition, those people would be ones getting the harshest pressure. Again, this is not something the military would have a role in.
 
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Oh. Hey, look, fraud was caught again.

Florida attorney under investigation for registering to vote in Georgia, encouraging others to do the same


Republican, of course. To poke at a couple bits from that -

“We absolutely have to hold the Senate and we have to start fighting back, and we have to do whatever it takes,” Price said in the video. “And if that means changing your address for the next two months, so be it. I’m doing that. I’m moving to Georgia and I’m gonna fight and I want you all to fight with me.”

Price told the group he’s moving to his brother’s address in Hiram, Georgia in order to register to vote in the January runoff. He repeats and spells and his brother’s name and address, as members of the group jot it down. They can be heard mumbling the address in the background while some write.

“We can truly register at that address?” one woman asks.

“Sure,” Price answers, adding they have to plan to show a move, suggesting they have mail sent there.

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When Carr reached Price by email Tuesday evening, he denied he was serious about the move.

“Thanks for reaching out. I did not change my voter registration and I don’t have 2 million roommates,” Price wrote, referencing a joke he’d told at one point during the talk about having millions join him in Georgia. " But if my humorous comments bring attention to the massive and widespread voter fraud in Georgia, I would submit to you that it’s a good thing.”

But Channel 2 confirmed Price registered to vote the day after he made the speech, using his brother’s Hiram address and swearing to an affidavit that he was a Georgia resident and eligible to vote.

“When we clearly know that he is not,” said Deidre Holden, Paulding County’s election supervisor.

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In a Wednesday afternoon statement, Georgia’s Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs confirmed the office would be exploring the felony charges tied to fraudulent voter registration in Georgia.

For weeks Georgia officials have warned that registering to vote with no attempt to stay in Georgia can be punishable by a felony charge that can carry up to a ten-year sentence, and $100,000 fine.
 
"The president is serious about it"

McEnany says Trump is serious about defunding the military unless Congress punishes Twitter
 
I think the worst-case scenario would be that Trump squats in the WH. Biden takes up temporary office in whatever emergency facility MUST exist, and everyone waits till Trump comes out on his own account ... or starves.

Hans
Not going to happen, the USSS has loyalty to the incumbent President. Trump tries that, and he will be dragged out.
 
"The president is serious about it"

McEnany says Trump is serious about defunding the military unless Congress punishes Twitter
Hi Kayleigh.

We think it is about time you considered your own future here. High-level jobs on the pay-and-perks you want to get used to come with fairly thorough prior research involved. In short, they are going to scrutinise your previous work in some detail before they consider putting you on the short list for interviews. A couple of bad reviews and rejections will certainly do the rounds and make you a lot less likely to land that big-paying high-level position you would like.

And right now, you are not doing yourself any favours in this regard. This sort of thing - shilling shamelessly for an obvious mental case of a boss - is no longer a mark of a high achiever, Nor is it a crash through the glass ceiling. Rather, it is a mark of loyalty to a serial offender at many levels. It is a black mark, a hindrance to future employment.

Unless, of course, you are actually intent on going under on his ship. I suspect you aren't, but feel you "can't back out now" for fear of something bad happening to you. Or you like being in an abusive relationship.

Which is why the suggestion to you now is: Get out today, while you still can. The door for escape is rapidly closing, but there is still just enough room for you to squeeze out with at least a remnant of dignity intact. But you need to do it now. Find an excuse, any excuse, and flee.

Best of luck!

Regards, the rest of the civilised world.
 
Hi Kayleigh.

We think it is about time you considered your own future here. High-level jobs on the pay-and-perks you want to get used to come with fairly thorough prior research involved. In short, they are going to scrutinise your previous work in some detail before they consider putting you on the short list for interviews. A couple of bad reviews and rejections will certainly do the rounds and make you a lot less likely to land that big-paying high-level position you would like.

And right now, you are not doing yourself any favours in this regard. This sort of thing - shilling shamelessly for an obvious mental case of a boss - is no longer a mark of a high achiever, Nor is it a crash through the glass ceiling. Rather, it is a mark of loyalty to a serial offender at many levels. It is a black mark, a hindrance to future employment.

Unless, of course, you are actually intent on going under on his ship. I suspect you aren't, but feel you "can't back out now" for fear of something bad happening to you. Or you like being in an abusive relationship.

Which is why the suggestion to you now is: Get out today, while you still can. The door for escape is rapidly closing, but there is still just enough room for you to squeeze out with at least a remnant of dignity intact. But you need to do it now. Find an excuse, any excuse, and flee.

Best of luck!

Regards, the rest of the civilised world.
She's got a sure and lucrative future in far-right media. Perhaps even working for Trump.
 
Joe Biden's lead is now more than 7 million more votes!

Biden: 81,264,673

Trump: 74,210,838


Difference: 7,053,835
 
She's got a sure and lucrative future in far-right media. Perhaps even working for Trump.

I think Norman Alexander is spot on. Kayleigh McEnany can't go to back to Fox as Fox needs to move away from Trump talking heads. I think Trump may attempt to start a conservative media outlet, but the Murdochs have experience and will destroy that venture as Trump's legal woes make him toxic to advertisers.

Therefore I think Kayleigh McEnany is toast.
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"The president is serious about it"

McEnany says Trump is serious about defunding the military unless Congress punishes Twitter

Watching Trump act like he isn't a lame duck is kind of funny for a change.

The defense budget can easily wait until the inauguration.
 
Trump is planning some huge Christmas parties without social distencing or masks, in almost total contemp of the Corona restrictions.
A wealthy corrupt ruler throwing celebration while a plague devastates his counry;
Poe's "Masque Of The Red Death" anybody?
 
Trump is planning some huge Christmas parties without social distencing or masks, in almost total contemp of the Corona restrictions.
A wealthy corrupt ruler throwing celebration while a plague devastates his counry;
Poe's "Masque Of The Red Death" anybody?
How will future generations believe that the crimes he committed, on such a global scale, in so many arenas, with such perfidy, could have actually happened? Children reading history books 50 years from now won’t believe it.

The only way they can believe it is if they see it themselves, which they very may well, because that corrupt strain has not yet been eliminated by our species, and won’t for a long time.
 
Just when I thought no way was Biden going to reach that 7 million vote margin, he blew right through it.

Biden: 81,267,708

Trump: 74,213,015

Difference:7,054,693
 
Trump continues to cheapen the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award by giving it to a friggen' football coach. With Rush and now Lou Holtz, that award has about the same prestige associated with it as a kindergartener's blue star for not pissing in his pants.
 
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