Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VIII

MicahJava said:
More coming soon on the possibility of a small wound somewhere in the front of Kennedy's head.
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Oh man, can't hardly wait...

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MicahJava said:
More coming soon on the possibility of a small wound somewhere in the front of Kennedy's head.
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57 years later and the best you can manage is a promise of something "new" coming about a "small wound somewhere"? Really?

Well currently I have two small headwounds, one of which bled profusely, sufficient to matt my hair. So what? Headwounds tend to bleed a lot. Was I therefore assassinated?

You are making absurd claims.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
So they would have to dig his remains up in public first. That does not seem likely possible. So forget I said anything. :o
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I'd like to forget MicahJava said anything about it.

Actually, they dug him up in public in 1967, per the link. Some speculate that's when JFK's brain was buried with him during his reinternment. It's been missing since then, and the last person known to have possession was Robert Kennedy's secretary, Angie Novello. It's a short leap of faith to RFK making arrangements to get the brain into the coffin sometime thereafter.

Hank
 
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RFK definitely put the brain in the coffin in 1967. My guess is that Jackie begged him to do it, and nobody said no to Jackie. And I'm sure nobody at the National Archives was going to tell RFK anything.
 
Axxman300 said:
RFK definitely put the brain in the coffin in 1967. My guess is that Jackie begged him to do it, and nobody said no to Jackie. And I'm sure nobody at the National Archives was going to tell RFK anything.
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That's the reasonable surmise, and the most likely conclusion according to the HSCA in 1978, but of course because there's no documentary evidence trail on that, conspiracy theorists like to raise the issue of "Why is the brain missing?" and "What would the missing brain reveal about the conspiracy?" every so often. I'm sure it's been raised here more than once by more than one CT, including, I would wager, our current resident CT.

Hank
 
HSienzant said:
That's the reasonable surmise, and the most likely conclusion according to the HSCA in 1978, but of course because there's no documentary evidence trail on that, conspiracy theorists like to raise the issue of "Why is the brain missing?" and "What would the missing brain reveal about the conspiracy?" every so often. I'm sure it's been raised here more than once by more than one CT, including, I would wager, our current resident CT.

Hank
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My guess is that RFK figured they already had photographed the brain and the rest of the body anyway, so why keep it in a jar? Plus, they were Catholic as hell so...

And as far as the comedy relief goes, we're going to sit through another hypothesis based on 5 or 6 low quality autopsy photos and copies of copies of x-rays along with second-hand non-medical opinion, and cherry-picked testimony that's almost always out of context.
 
Axxman300 said:
The funny thing is this whole week the CIA's social media has been hyping careers as a CIA librarian.

When my family member went to the dark-side he'd suggest books to read that would bring me up to speed on the situation in his AO.
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The CIA is often scooped by journalists. They're not all-powerful and yes, most of their info is open-source. A lot of it also comes from America's allies just giving the Agency stuff, and obviously, other parts of the intelligence community (NSA especially for SIGNINT). There's also the CIA's Domestic Contact Service, where Americans who travel abroad can potentially be a source of useful info.

Granted, the CIA has long cultivated relationships in the media (Allen Dulles, for example, was notorious for using CBS to puff up the image of the Agency) and partnered with the State Department, USAID, Voice of America, etc. Honestly, CIA is really a small - albeit important - part of US foreign policy.

And of course, at least historically, being a journalist and involved in intelligence aren't mutually exclusive, though the separation between these professions (among others) is far more institutionalized these days...
 
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Axxman300 said:
My guess is that RFK figured they already had photographed the brain and the rest of the body anyway, so why keep it in a jar? Plus, they were Catholic as hell so...
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The trail goes cold with Angie Novello, so that was pretty much the HSCA conclusion as well.


Axxman300 said:
And as far as the comedy relief goes, we're going to sit through another hypothesis based on 5 or 6 low quality autopsy photos and copies of copies of x-rays along with second-hand non-medical opinion, and cherry-picked testimony that's almost always out of context.
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Yep. More balogna, in other words. Sliced thick.

Hank
 
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Allen773 said:
The CIA is often scooped by journalists. They're not all-powerful and yes, most of their info is open-source. A lot of it also comes from America's allies just giving the Agency stuff, and obviously, other parts of the intelligence community (NSA especially for SIGNINT). There's also the CIA's Domestic Contact Service, where Americans who travel abroad can potentially be a source of useful info.

Granted, the CIA has long cultivated relationships in the media (Allen Dulles, for example, was notorious for using CBS to puff up the image of the Agency) and partnered with the State Department, USAID, Voice of America, etc. Honestly, CIA is really a small - albeit important - part of US foreign policy.

And of course, at least historically, being a journalist and involved in intelligence aren't mutually exclusive, though the separation between these professions (among others) is far more institutionalized these days...
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JFK actually expanded the CIA's outreach to key newspapers and news outlets.

The problem with the CIA is that its internal system for getting information to the right departments is slow. There are TV, radio, and print news operations in every country in the world. If you need to know what's going on in a certain country, or specific region within that country you simply subscribe to the closest newspaper.

My Twitter feed is populated by individual journalists from the BBC, Al Jazeera, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, FOX, Reuters, and others from Pakistan, Russia, and African countries. I get news about Afghan and Syrian car-bomb attacks hours before the major outlets report them.
 
MicahJava said:
https://old.reddit.com/r/JFKeveryday/comments/jzcmqa/small_wounds_in_the_front_of_jfks_head_contents/

PDF version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7VkiCR50DhuXRpVjrYJj4BHoeH9Rs-W/view?usp=sharing
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So the same old same-old.

Stuff like Dennis David coming forward years after the assassination and talking about seeing a non-existent autopsy film and other discredited and unproven nonsense. Upon reflection, I guess you didn't promise anything worthwhile or new in your blurb from a few days ago.

For example, Dennis David was covered back in the dark ages... January of 2013, to be precise, with Robert "Baloney" Prey. You're not bringing anything new to the table. For example, start here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8957358#post8957358

This is why you've been admonished in the past to read the threads that preceded your arrival here. It's clear you still haven't done that. You treat the various subjects as if we're unfamiliar with them, and don't have sufficient information to make a judgment call against your arguments and your supposed 'facts'.

Hank
 
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HSienzant said:
So the same old same-old.

Stuff like Dennis David coming forward years after the assassination and talking about seeing a non-existent autopsy film and other discredited and unproven nonsense. Upon reflection, I guess you didn't promise anything worthwhile or new in your blurb from a few days ago.

For example, Dennis David was covered back in the dark ages... January of 2013, to be precise, with Robert "Baloney" Prey. You're not bringing anything new to the table. For example, start here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8957358#post8957358

This is why you've been admonished in the past to read the threads that preceded your arrival here. It's clear you still haven't done that. You treat the various subjects as if we're unfamiliar with them, and don't have sufficient information to make a judgment call against your arguments and your supposed 'facts'.

Hank
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This new post also offers rebuttals.


BTW you should know that Bruce Pitzer's former wife Joyce also said that he was vaguely aware of a "something" her husband had concerning the assassination.

Dennis David said he didn't come forward earlier because of his career and his (perhaps untrue) suspicion that Bruce Pitzer was murdered.
 
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