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Falsifying the history of WW II

Saggy said:
Some quotes from MK ....

Before coming to Vienna Hitler's view of the Jews is benign,




However as he engages in political discussions with the Jews his opinion changes:




In Vienna Hitler is employed as a common worker, and he encounters trade unions, Social Democrats, Jews, and Marxism:




Hitler identified the Jews with Marxism and communism (Churchill shared this view see -Zionism versus Bolshevism). The above passages refer to a period before WW I, but were written after WW I and the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

Regarding the Bolshevik revolution in Russia




Hitler also identified Jews with the international financiers, and wrote:




Hitler believed that the Jews and leftist elements in Germany sabotaged the war effort. Probably the most well known quote from MK is on the big lie:
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So the Jews are Marxist, communist, capitalist, financiers.

And somehow you cannot spot a problem in that.

That's bizarre.
 
abaddon said:
So the Jews are Marxist, communist, capitalist, financiers.

And somehow you cannot spot a problem in that.

That's bizarre.
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It's like how liberals like me in India are accused of being Islamo-fascist, communist, Vatican controlled rice-bag converts.
 
Providing a photo dated Sepember 1940 as some sort of proof that Hitler didn't want a war in Europe is a bit embarrassing for you. Hitler had invaded France by then and was already attacking the UK by air. Days after this leaflet was dropped he started the blitz. That kind of campaign doesn't happen without planning.

What he wanted was Britain not to get involved so he could go about the business of raping the European mainland with impunity. He'd have got round to us eventually.

Pity he shot himself before they set him on fire.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
So Hitler loathed the Jews because he thought they were Marxists and he detested the Jews because he thought they were capitalists and he hated the Jews because he thought they undermined the German war effort in WWI.

I wonder what a guy with beliefs like that might do if he got control of a large and resentful nation, militarised it and raised entire divisions of fanatical followers.
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It's almost like he (amongst others) has some class of a problem with a particular group of people...If only there was a handy term to decribe that...
 
Saggy said:
For immediate proof that Hitler did everything he could to avoid war with the west see the photo and caption below showing a Brit reading a leaflet dropped by the Nazis over London promoting a negotiated settlement before a European war began ..
[IMGw=800]https://i.imgur.com/d7ISLnF.jpg[/IMGw]
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The man is laughing because this is a script from ITMA.
 
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Jack by the hedge said:
So Hitler loathed the Jews because he thought they were Marxists and he detested the Jews because he thought they were <vulture> capitalists and he hated the Jews because he thought they undermined the German war effort in WWI.
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With my <addition> that about sums it up. And he was right on all counts.

Jews as Marxists - two sources ...
Churchill - http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html

In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
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Even better is this summary of Mein Kampf by Rabbi Josef ben Porat
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uKbrffKEyE3m/
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Jews were vulture capitalists - see ...
THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX: HOW A BANKRUPT GERMANY SOLVED ITS INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS
http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/bankrupt-germany.php

Jews undermined the German war effort in WWI.
There is no doubt about this, and the 'left' tried (and did?) overthrow the govt. at the end of the war. I don't have a reference, but .. immediately following the war the Jews launched a communist revolution in Germany, to match the Soviets, but it was crushed, see ...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jQwjlmYghTZl/
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The revolutionary activity in Germany in 1918-19 is far more complicated than "the Jews launched a communist revolution", as many different groups were involved in different stages of that, starting with disguntled sailors in the Navy and including a number of distinctly non-communist left groups.

But no, those all powerful "Jews" were behind it.

And IME of a chunk of leftist political groups in the UK in the '80s, they are/were as anti-semitic as you are...
 
Golly, the “left” making noises about ending the war when people are going hungry, the latest offensives came up way short than promised, the Navy ordered to suicide itself for the glory of the admirals, and now the US was involved to erase the gains from knocking Russia out of the war. Can’t imagine why anyone, left or right might this think that way.
 
kookbreaker said:
Golly, the “left” making noises about ending the war when people are going hungry, the latest offensives came up way short than promised, the Navy ordered to suicide itself for the glory of the admirals, and now the US was involved to erase the gains from knocking Russia out of the war. Can’t imagine why anyone, left or right might this think that way.
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One of the major reasons the Central Powers lost was that the removal of manpower from farming caused a food shortage:

The German government had made no economic plans for a long war. In 1914 Germany depended on imports for about a third of her foodstuffs, fodder and fertiliser, and these were affected by, among other things, the blockade put in place by the British navy from November 1914. Germany became, to a large extent, dependent on what her own farmers could produce. German agriculture was a mix of large estates in Northern Germany and some four million small farms elsewhere. As men and horses were called up, farmers’ wives took over the running of the farm, but lack of equipment, fertiliser and manpower, even though some 900,000 prisoners of war worked on the land, saw substantial falls in crop yields, which almost halved by the war’s end. A lack of fodder led to livestock losing weight, impacting on the supply of meat and milk. In July 1918 meat rations amounted to 12% of pre-war consumption.
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Unless the German pre-war government and military were run by Jews those folks made the mistake of planning for a short war or one where there would be no naval blockade - this idea had worked in 1848, 1864, 1866, and 1870 but not this one because they went up against two major naval powers.

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Oh, Saggy I see you refuse to comment on my earlier comments to you?

I take your running away to be a concession that Germany was an aggressor against Luxembourg and that in the MK Hitler clearly stated he planned to attack and take land from those countries in the East. He planned war decades before he did it. So, no innocent dictator.

Thanks for the concessions and I have to ask now that you have agreed you are wrong are you going to stop staying goofy stuff? What no? Oh, of course you have to keep spewing historically inaccurate stuff....lol
 
Border Reiver said:
Sure they did, that why they enlisted in proportionately greater numbers than any other ethnic group in Imperial Germany.
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Not those Jews, silly! It was all the French and English and American Jews who enlisted on the enemy side!
 
dudalb said:
Yeah, that has been Saggy's shtick for a number of years, now.
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He uses the same inept phrases and debates tactics each time. Yet is baffled each time why it doesn't work......
 
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