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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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It's kind of bizarre isn't it? But some states don't allow counting until the election day. They may also have a window that allows ballots to be accepted weeks after election day as long as they are postmarked on or before election day.

A real clue are the deadline dates for certification.

Wisconsin (Dec 1)
Kansas (Dec 1)
New Hampshire (Dec 2)
West Virginia (Dec 3)
Washington (Dec 3)
Texas (Dec 3)
Oregon (Dec 3)
Connecticut (Dec 3)
Illinois (Dec 4)
New York (Dec 7)
New Jersey (Dec 8)
Missouri (Dec 8)
Maryland (Dec 8)
California (Dec 11)
Don't know about the others but WA lets votes come in for a couple weeks past the voting deadline if they are postmarked on time. I have no idea which countries have mail that slow.

But we do already have results for candidates and issues on the ballots.
 
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Here's an article describing Califonia's issues, but it's from November 10.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/416080-why-california-counts-its-ballots-so-slowly

It describes a whole lot of things California does to allow more voters to vote, so that's a good thing, and I agree with the general statement in the article that it's better to be correct than to be fast. However, it seems to me that it ought to be possible to be both, at least when "fast" would mean "a week or less".

Reading the article, it looks like the biggest bottleneck may be their signature verification process. Apparently, in California, it requires a "high level administrator" to throw out a ballot for a signature mismatch. It doesn't give more detail except to say, "in California, several more layers of increasingly senior officials inspect a ballot, in an effort to count as many as possible."

There's no other details, including who these "increasingly senior officials" actually are. However, I'm picturing people who have jobs to do still having a huge stack of votes that have to be viewed personally.

If the quarter million remaining votes are all of that sort, the situation isn't absolutely horrible. If they are concentrated in certain areas, i.e. if there are precincts that simply haven't been run through the counters yet, it would mean local races where the people running still don't have a clue who won three weeks later.

So, California needs to look at the process and see if there are ways to speed it up. It isn't good to have this kind of delay. Also, it can't just be California. If there are 2 million outstanding votes, and California has a quarter million, someplace else is also in trouble.

Anyway, I want to make sure no one thinks that I'm implying something nefarious is going on. I just think it's kind of crazy that there's still something between 1 and 2 percent of the total votes that have yet to be counted. Hopefully it's a one time glitch when people didn't really understand how different this year was going to be, and how procedures that were written for processing a few thousand absentee ballots suddenly had to be used to process a few million ballots.

ETA: The article would also explain why the 4x the votes and 4x the counters wouldn't work under California laws. You can't suddenly add 4x the "high level administrators". If the law requires specific people in California to be involved in the process, you can't create more of them to meet higher levels of demand.

I don't disagree with any of that. I've learned so much how elections are run in the last few weeks Fascinating and boring at the same time.
 
Rudy Giuliani announces Sidney Powell is no longer "a member of the Trump legal team"

He's only following precedent, the original Three Stooges never had a female member.
 
If you somehow managed to be the nuttiest person on a team that included Rudy Giuliani you are doing well.
 
Statement from Rudy Giuliani & Jenna Ellis: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”

We heard her as the **** poured down Giuliani's face. She spoke madly for quite a while at the podium of a trump event.
 
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Statement from Rudy Giuliani & Jenna Ellis: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”

We heard her as the **** poured down Giuliani's face. She spoke madly for quite a while at the podium of a trump event.

And just on Nov 20, Trump claimed her as part of his legal team.
 
And just on Nov 20, Trump claimed her as part of his legal team.

I'm breathlessly awaiting the announcement of what he really meant by that statement.

So odd that the president who "tells it like it is" needs so much after the fact clarification about what he really meant.
 
I'm a little bit nervous about Michigan Republicans playing shenanigans. Some of them are definitely hinting at that. But I think perhaps naively that when it comes down to it, this will all pass and Biden's electors will be selected.

Some are suggesting that legislators can choose the electors. But legally they cannot. A state has a right to choose their own electors in whatever fashion they want. But they cannot violate the laws of that State The State of Michigan as well as the other 49 states created laws that leaves the selection of electors up to the voters. The legislature could change that but not after an election. It would have to precede the election. The state in effect entered into a contract with the voters and attempting to bypass the election now would be breaking that contract.

There is also another issue Michigan elected officials would face. If they don't certify the election none of them would be elected officials any more as the presidential contest was one of many on the ballot.
 
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Statement from Rudy Giuliani & Jenna Ellis: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”

We heard her as the **** poured down Giuliani's face. She spoke madly for quite a while at the podium of a trump event.
Well that's just chicken****. Zorg didn't blame his secretary for Mr. Shadow being on the phone.
 
I must admit, I find myself more irritated at Team Trump's shenanigans than I expected I would be, because it really isn't playing out the way I expected.

I expected ....Or, perhaps, they don't even want that. Perhaps winning isn't even their goal. Perhaps they're just trolling, or possibly hoping to cast doubt on our institutions and our government, and subverting our legal system for assistance.

a.

There is one very obvious motivation that I’ve not seen mentioned.
If Trump didn’t do all this crap then Joe Biden would be the lead story in consecutive news cycles. And that event would cause President Chucklehead to become even more detached from reality.
 
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