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Allegations of Fraud in 2020 US Election

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Bubba said:
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Fake skeptics already know she has nothing, because she declined to disclose on national TV with Tucker Carlson. Fake logic told them this proves she has nothing.
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She has failed to provide evidence in federal and state legal proceedings. That's the only place her claims matter.
 
BobTheCoward said:
How old is your driver's license photo. Who possesses expertise in matching photos to a person?

It is all a little silly. But the expectation is mail in baits have a higher reject rate than in person because of things like signature matching.
ETA: I think the system is ultimately like the TSA...mostly ineffective theater, with the main reason terrorism not happening is difficulty preparing and investigation well before the day planned.
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Sounds like a legal defense for the aggrieved, if the signature analysts are not properly qualified.
 
Bubba said:
I dont know, but filing their lawsuit and getting a court date seem a logical next step. If they dont, its probably over for Trump, unless he has an Ace up his sleeve. Maybe that Executive Order 13848 item, for example.
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Maybe he can threaten to expose all the pedophiles in the Illuminati unless they declare him president for life.
 
Bubba said:
Why ask Paul2 ? How is he supposed to know?? Wait for the court date.

I dont know, but filing their lawsuit and getting a court date seem a logical next step. If they dont, its probably over for Trump, unless he has an Ace up his sleeve. Maybe that Executive Order 13848 item, for example.
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Are you saying that the time we can know whether she has any evidence, then, is when she appears in court to present it?
 
Bubba said:
Why ask Paul2 ? How is he supposed to know?? Wait for the court date.

I dont know, but filing their lawsuit and getting a court date seem a logical next step.
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If they really have the evidence they say they do, the next logical step would have been to hand it over to the FBI so that it could be investigated properly.

I haven't read anywhere that they have done this.

On the other hand if their evidence is rubbish or non-existent then their next logical step would be to do nothing with it for a long period of time so that it could be used as a pretext for subverting the democratic process.
 
Bubba said:
I guess you're right.


There couldn't be any reason Trump's team wants to hold their cards until they get in court.
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No reason that I can think of. And apparently none that you can think of.

Can you wait until they go to court??
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Why haven't they gone already? When are they planning on going? Why haven't they filed an intent to sue? There are only 14 business days between now and when the Electoral College votes and only 10 business days until the "safe harbor" date. That's not a lot of time.
 
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Lawyers with an actual case bring their evidence to a Judge before they present it to the public, not the other way around.

Seriously just estimate how many people would have to be in on this fraud to work, people from both parties plus independents.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Lawyers with an actual case bring their evidence to a Judge before they present it to the public, not the other way around.
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In normal times. All I know is she says she is building a case. AFAIK that means legal action.

Maybe she has nothing. Maybe she is lying about everything. That would be lucky for us supporters of clean elections.


Seriously just estimate how many people would have to be in on this fraud to work, people from both parties plus independents.
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Why? She is saying it is mostly inside Dominion and Smartmatic.
 
Robin said:
If they really have the evidence they say they do, the next logical step would have been to hand it over to the FBI so that it could be investigated properly.

I haven't read anywhere that they have done this.
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Why would they trust the FBI?
 
Just checking....are you saying you are convinced that she is flat out lying, below?

Or, what is your take on this?


“Yes, I fully expect we will be able to prove all of it in court within the next two weeks, although the fraud case itself doesn’t have to be done within the two weeks,” Powell responded. “But we have more than enough evidence now. We have more evidence now than we then have the present population is imprisoned on. Of this egregious fraud. I mean the evidence is really stunning Maria.”

“What’s the most stunning, most egregious? Give me one thing, what’s the most egregious and most stunning, Sidney, as we wrap up here?” the host pressed.

“Well, one of the most impressive pieces of evidence is the affidavit of the young military officer who saw it all done and was there when it was created. He knows exactly how it works. He was briefed on it,” Powell said.

“And many other people are talking every day about how it worked, we’ve got Eric Kumar, as you said admitting on tape that he rigged the elections for Biden, and hated Trump. We’ve got their social media posts. We’ve got all kinds of evidence that is mathematically irrefutable by experts, including three professors at Princeton,” Powell explained.

“And it all proves the same thing, the evidence of individual poll watchers who saw votes come in, saw the machines manipulated, the machines are never supposed to be hooked up to the internet, at least 30 of them were according to a published article that’s already out,” she continued.

“That’s an egregious breach of election law in itself, that should never have happened, that causes automatically, that should automatically invalidate anything coming out of those machines in every state that happened in, if not across the country because they can change everything as they’re watching it.”

- Sidney Powell
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Bubba said:
Why would they trust the FBI?
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So the FBI are in on this conspiracy are they?

How can a court deal with any '"evidence" that has never been investigated or analysed by a competent law enforcement?
 
acbytesla said:
Every election has unaccounted irregularities. This was brought up in the Nevada with its 139 irregularities in it's most populous county. The point is that the irregularities in Michigan are immaterial when viewed in the context of 150 thousand vote plurality. There is every reason for her to seek improving the process. There is absolutely no reason for her to disenfranchise 150 thousand voters and flip a Presidential election.
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That is not what Palmer was doing. (I have not read the affidavit of the other guy.) In her affidavit rescinding her certification she said that she believes that in order to certify the results there should be an additional 10 days of canvassing in the precincts that were out of balance.

She says she certified the results based on a promise that there would be an audit done before the state board certified the results. She says after she certified, the Secretary of State told her that the agreement to do the audit is not legally binding. Therefore, she rescinded her certification asking for more time for canvassing to resolve the questions of the out of balance precincts.

It appears that the certification by the county board is, for all practical purposes, really just a formality. (I think I am keeping my state laws in order here.) If the county board does not certify, the members not certifying have to write up why they are not certifying. Those statements along with all other information received by the board is then sent to the state board.

The state board then meets and determines the winners of each race. The state board must meet on November 23. But they can choose to delay if they need more information. They have to certify within 40 days of the election (the day before the meeting of the electors.)

The state may choose to ask for an audit. But we are only talking about balance mismatches of a few hundred ballots and prior audits showed most of those are clerical errors with the correct number of votes actually having been counted.

Palmer wasn't asking for the votes to be thrown out. She was just asking for the audit she was promised before the final certification by the state board.
 
Robin said:
So the FBI are in on this conspiracy are they?
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Trump does not trust the FBI


How can a court deal with any '"evidence" that has never been investigated or analysed by a competent law enforcement?
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Maybe you should call Sidney and explain that to her??
 
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Bubba said:
Why? She is saying it is mostly inside Dominion and Smartmatic.
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No. She has claimed that officials in China, Cuba, and Venezuela were involved, as well as George Soros and workers at the Clinton Foundation. There was also a Spanish company named Scytl that was involved. And there were bribes paid to state and local politicians and election officials. Plus a "young army officer" was given a demo of the system.
 
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