Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

[The Don]

Trump Tweeted

Top US Pollster and Statistician Richard Baris — People's Pundit — SUSPENDED from Twitter for Reporting on Disputed Election — Political 'WrongThink' Not Allowed https://thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1...ted-election-political-wrongthink-not-allowed

Said 10,000 DEAD PEOPLE VOTED IN MICHIGAN. When will this RIGGED ELECTION be overturned!

He may have said it, but there was no evidence to support his assertion.

The BBC has investigated this - and unsurprisingly there was nothing to it.

Donald Trump's supporters have claimed that thousands of votes were cast in the US election using the names of people who had died.

"I may be 72," Maria Arredondo from Michigan told us when we called her. "But I'm alive and breathing. My mind is working fine and I'm healthy."

Maria said she had voted for Joe Biden and was surprised to hear that her name had appeared on a list of supposedly dead voters in the state.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54874120

 

[Fast Eddie B]

I don’t expect it to do much good, nor to get anything other than a form letter response, but I just emailed my two Tennessee Senators and my Congressman the following:

Please stand up for democracy and clearly state your acceptance of the 2020 presidential election results. And to whatever extent possible, please encourage President Trump to accept the results and to do what is necessary to ensure a smooth transition of power to President-Elect Biden. To stand in the way of a solid popular vote and Electoral College victory is shameful and history will not look kindly on those who enable such obstruction.

Thank you for your time and attention. Please do what you know in your heart of hearts is the right thing.

 

[phiwum]

Is this guy admitting to engaging in voter fraud?

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The whole scenario is hard to understand. Here's what he says:

Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They then copied my version of their name onto their ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary to ensure no laws were broken.

I don't know what he means by "copied". Does he mean they wrote it in his style on their envelope? If so, it wasn't a false signature. Should it have not matched the signature on file? Maybe not. It's not really clear. Perhaps a handwriting expert[1] should see it's from the voter's hand, but should an untrained poll worker?

I think that by and large he's right that signatures are a crap security measure for mail ballots. I also think that the number of stolen ballots filled in by one side wouldn't even change the results of the close election he mentions (a local election where the difference is 200 votes). Even if some apartment dwellers have access to others' ballots, the difficulty in getting enough ballots to make a difference makes this threat inconsequential.

[1] I don't know how reliable such experts are.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

The Consent Decree signed by the Georgia Secretary of State, with the approval of Governor @BrianKempGA, at the urging of @staceyabrams, makes it impossible to check & match signatures on ballots and envelopes, etc. They knew they were going to cheat. Must expose real signatures!

....What are they trying to hide. They know, and so does everyone else. EXPOSE THE CRIME!

 

[Mojo]

Trump Tweets

The Consent Decree signed by the Georgia Secretary of State, with the approval of Governor @BrianKempGA, at the urging of @staceyabrams, makes it impossible to check & match signatures on ballots and envelopes, etc. They knew they were going to cheat. Must expose real signatures!

....What are they trying to hide. They know, and so does everyone else. EXPOSE THE CRIME!

Aren’t the Governor and Secretary of State of Georgia Republicans?

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Aren’t the Governor and Secretary of State of Georgia Republicans?

RINO’s now for sure!

 

[acbytesla]

Yesterday Trump went 0 for 6 in the courts in Pennsylvania

Two judges in Pennsylvania on Friday tossed a half dozen court cases the Trump campaign had brought to invalidate thousands of votes around Philadelphia, where voters carried President-elect Joe Biden to a clear win in the battleground state.

In total, the Trump campaign had sought to throw out almost 9,000 absentee ballots because their outer envelopes lack names, dates or addresses or some combination of the three that voters could have filled out. ------

Haaz found that state law didn't require voters to fill out the address sections on the envelopes, and the instructions on the ballots didn't tell voters they must fill them out.

"Voters should not be disenfranchised by reasonably relying upon voting instructions provided by election officials," Haaz wrote.


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/13/politics/pennsylvania-absentee-ballots-trump-campaign/index.html

 

[Craig4]

Trump Tweets

The Consent Decree signed by the Georgia Secretary of State, with the approval of Governor @BrianKempGA, at the urging of @staceyabrams, makes it impossible to check & match signatures on ballots and envelopes, etc. They knew they were going to cheat. Must expose real signatures!

....What are they trying to hide. They know, and so does everyone else. EXPOSE THE CRIME!

What's he talking about? You don't sign your ballot. The ballot isn't counted until it is separated from the privacy envelop with your signature so no one knows who you voted for.

 

[acbytesla]

Trump got the **** kicked out of him. Time for all patriotic Americans to recognize that the will of the people spoke loud and clear.

President Elect Joe Biden 78,589,749
POS Whiner Baby Drumpf: 73,030,839

Margin of victory: 5,558,910 votes.

 

[Meadmaker]

I find that I've experienced an amazing range of emotions about this election starting last Tuesday.

During the day Tuesday, I saw the incredible voter turnout numbers and thought it was good news. That usually means a good day for Democrats. As votes started to come in, they seemed far more "red" than I would have liked, and I grew nervous. As the evening went on, over in the "party" thread, people were getting dejected as fear of a Trump victory loomed, but as I went to bed, my last post of the night declared "this isn't over", after verifying for myself by looking at county web sites that Michigan still had a lot of absentee ballots left.

Cautious optimism replaced pessimism as Michigan and Wisconsin were declared for Biden. Tense excitement was the order of the days while the counting caught up in Georgia, Nevada, and Pennsylvania, along with some apprehension that Arizona may slip away. Great relief and excitement as the media called the election, but mixed with apprehension, knowing that there would be a flood of legal challenges and recounts to come.

And then, by Thursday or so of this week, I don't know how to describe the emotion. Relief, and something of amusement, realizing just how farcical the legal challenges are. I can't say there is elation, because Joe Biden can't wish away the country's problems, but at least there is some sense of hope.

It has been a heck of a ride.

 

[acbytesla]

I find that I've experienced an amazing range of emotions about this election starting last Tuesday.

During the day Tuesday, I saw the incredible voter turnout numbers and thought it was good news. That usually means a good day for Democrats. As votes started to come in, they seemed far more "red" than I would have liked, and I grew nervous. As the evening went on, over in the "party" thread, people were getting dejected as fear of a Trump victory loomed, but as I went to bed, my last post of the night declared "this isn't over", after verifying for myself by looking at county web sites that Michigan still had a lot of absentee ballots left.

Cautious optimism replaced pessimism as Michigan and Wisconsin were declared for Biden. Tense excitement was the order of the days while the counting caught up in Georgia, Nevada, and Pennsylvania, along with some apprehension that Arizona may slip away. Great relief and excitement as the media called the election, but mixed with apprehension, knowing that there would be a flood of legal challenges and recounts to come.

And then, by Thursday or so of this week, I don't know how to describe the emotion. Relief, and something of amusement, realizing just how farcical the legal challenges are. I can't say there is elation, because Joe Biden can't wish away the country's problems, but at least there is some sense of hope.

It has been a heck of a ride.

It ain't over yet.

 

[Meadmaker]

It ain't over yet.

In my opinion, the election part is all over except the pointing and laughing. I see zero opportunities for changing the apparent outcome. I suppose I should get to work designing a new avatar for Skeptic Tank for when the end is finally made official.


The phase of wondering what damage Trump can do on his way out is just beginning.

 

[quadraginta]

Won't happen.

The GOP is far more comfortable with fringe elements than the Democrats are.

"Comfortable" is something of an understatement. They've been actively courting them since Goldwater.

The courtship was been far more successful than they could have ever hoped. The marriage has been thriving more and more for decades.

Why would they contemplate a divorce?

I think it is far more likely that the Democratic Party will schism within the next four years, and that would be exactly the right lesson to take from the 2020 Election.

They hardly need to bother.

Remember what Will Rogers said?

"I am not a member of any organized party. I am a Democrat."

Little has changed since his time. Read through some of his other quotes to see how little.

 

[acbytesla]

In my opinion, the election part is all over except the pointing and laughing. I see zero opportunities for changing the apparent outcome. I suppose I should get to work designing a new avatar for Skeptic Tank for when the end is finally made official.


The phase of wondering what damage Trump can do on his way out is just beginning.

I see it as part of the same rollercoaster. I have been worried about the last 2 months of the turd's presidency for a while. Still am, but less so.

 

[quadraginta]

I think that as soon as he steps outside the White House, he isn't the Republican Party anymore, but I guess we'll find out.

The GOP, both as a whole and as individual members, have inextricably entwined their fortunes with Trump's past behavior and legacy. They have been doing this enthusiastically and adamantly for the past four years.

Any efforts to reject that or deny it to the rank and file party faithful will be met by either disbelief because they are obviously lying through their teeth, or outrage because they have rejected and abandoned the party's hero, leader, and idol.

They've made their bed. Now they get to lie in it.

 

[dudalb]

My big worry is that as it become certain that Biden will take office, that the more militant Trumpsters will turn violent.

 

[acbytesla]

Wow! Lots more votes added to both sides. Biden extends lead. Closing in on 79 million votes for the next president of the United States.

President Elect Joe Biden 78,629,640
POS Whiner Baby Drumpf: 73,063,371

Margin of victory: 5,566,269 votes.

 

[alfaniner]

I find that I've experienced an amazing range of emotions about this election starting last Tuesday.

During the day Tuesday, I saw the incredible voter turnout numbers and thought it was good news. That usually means a good day for Democrats. As votes started to come in, they seemed far more "red" than I would have liked, and I grew nervous. As the evening went on, over in the "party" thread, people were getting dejected as fear of a Trump victory loomed, but as I went to bed, my last post of the night declared "this isn't over", after verifying for myself by looking at county web sites that Michigan still had a lot of absentee ballots left.

Cautious optimism replaced pessimism as Michigan and Wisconsin were declared for Biden. Tense excitement was the order of the days while the counting caught up in Georgia, Nevada, and Pennsylvania, along with some apprehension that Arizona may slip away. Great relief and excitement as the media called the election, but mixed with apprehension, knowing that there would be a flood of legal challenges and recounts to come.

And then, by Thursday or so of this week, I don't know how to describe the emotion. Relief, and something of amusement, realizing just how farcical the legal challenges are. I can't say there is elation, because Joe Biden can't wish away the country's problems, but at least there is some sense of hope.

It has been a heck of a ride.

I think we're in the same rollercoaster car.

(eta) Posted before I read this:

I see it as part of the same rollercoaster. I have been worried about the last 2 months of the turd's presidency for a while. Still am, but less so.

 

[Andy_Ross]

According to the Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick

“There’s less than 30,000 votes in Georgia and Arizona dividing Biden and Trump. And if those two states turn, if they do, then the Supreme Court could make the decision on Pennsylvania. And then Trump is president."

 

[Andy_Ross]

Kayleigh McEnany is claiming more than a million marchers have turned out to support Trump in 'the Swamp' of DC.


TV coverage would suggest far fewer.