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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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Fast Eddie B said:
Not sure it was this thread where I mentioned this, but I had a chance to take this photo of the “truck” I mentioned - actually an SUV:

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In Copperhill, TN, just a few miles north of our N GA home...
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AMuses me that TRump supporters would fly the flag of losers....
 
wareyin said:
Good old Susan Collins, the totally "independent" Republican that only votes against Trump and her party when she knows they have the votes to pass anyway.
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hate to say this, but both parties do this. When they know they have the votes to pass a bill, they allow a party congressperson whose has a district or state where the bill is unpopular to vote against it. Happens all the time.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I don't know which is the sadder possibility; that people honestly believe that we buy for a second that they have just assumed the role of "Constant on-call strike team to defend someone in every discussion, nitpick and attack their opposition, and pitch a hissy fit whenever an argument is critical of the person" without being a supporter or that they honestly think that is really something you can do and they are doing.
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Mush. Inedible mush.
 
Aridas said:
Given body of work, not just Trump. Right wing forces, in general, get a huge bias in their favor, when it comes to her assessments. Naturally, that doesn't mean that Emily's Cat is a "supporter" of Trump/the right-wing, directly. It just means that her assessments are heavily biased in their favor - which could also easily be the case if she's trying to convince herself that both sides are equally bad.
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Yes, I'd say that she errs on giving the benefit to the minority position here on ISF. Most of us are vociferously against Trump and there's no doubt that some go too far in their vitriol. She was probably first motivated to correct genuine overstatements, but in the heat of the debate, stubbornness can cause one to reach for poor arguments in defense.

I reckon that this may explain her tendency to give benefit of the doubt to the right wing.

Obviously, all of this is speculation, but it's based on my own tendencies. I tend to respond to overstatement on my own "side" more often than I respond to ridiculous arguments from the other side, which is in the minority. In doing so, I sometimes have the same tendency to give too much benefit of doubt to the other side, though I don't have (I think) the same tendency to assume the worst of my own.

I believe EC when she speaks of loathing Trump. I do think that her arguments tend to suffer in a long debate, with intransigence taking over good reasoning. Can't say that she's anywhere unique in that.
 
phiwum said:
Oh, I take your point, but I don't reckon that the EC is going anywhere. Thus, I don't see a good reason to analyze the election as if the EC wasn't the law of the land.

The same bias towards states in the EC is in the requirements to amend the Constitution. Those same states that benefit from the EC can easily prevent an Amendment. It's a non-starter.
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Call me Don Quixote then.

IMV we don't surrender to an injustice just because it is entrenched. There is something monumentally ridiculous and injust about Trump and his supporters complaining about a few hundred or even a few thousand votes scattered here and there when Trump lost this election by more than FIVE and a QUARTER MILLION VOTES.
 
Biden's lead increases in both Arizona and Pennsylvania.

Up 17K now in Arizona

Up 53K in Pennsylvania
 
Trump Tweets

NOW 73,000,000 LEGAL VOTES!
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THE OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTING ROOMS. I WON THE ELECTION, GOT 71,000,000 LEGAL VOTES. BAD THINGS HAPPENED WHICH OUR OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE. NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WERE SENT TO PEOPLE WHO NEVER ASKED FOR THEM!
 
Latest batch from Maricopa County of ~13000 votes, AZ only gave Trump 53.4% of the vote. He needed >60% to maintain a realistic pace to win AZ with the remaining votes. He now needs >70% of the remaining votes with the bulk of them being in counties that are bluer than Maricopa.

Absent something very very strange, he's run out of gas in AZ.
 
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bonzombiekitty said:
Latest batch from Maricopa County of ~13000 votes, AZ only gave Trump 53.4% of the vote. He needed >60% to maintain a realistic pace to win AZ with the remaining votes. He now needs >70% of the remaining votes with the bulk of them being in counties that are bluer than Maricopa.

Absent something very very strange, he's run out of gas in AZ.
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Do you have a cite? Cook Political doesn't show that yet ...or Trump's supposed 73 million. They show him at 72 million 378 thousand.
 
acbytesla said:
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Do you have a cite? Cook Political doesn't show that yet ...or Trump's supposed 73 million. They show him at 72 million 378 thousand.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1326726087133581314

The info is on the responses to that tweet and the one he retweeted.

You might have to scroll through them some to find the people posting exactly what Trump needs to take AZ and why it's not going to happen. But the threads are full of a lot of celebrating.

Wasserman says he's seen enough. Given how coy he was about PA and GA, I'll take that as conclusive enough.
 
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Do you have a cite? Cook Political doesn't show that yet ...or Trump's supposed 73 million. They show him at 72 million 378 thousand.
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I stand corrected...at least Arizona shows it a little closer. Around 12 K difference. Still he is exaggerating his total. He's about 630K away from 73 million. Trump is the only one I know who rounds up that much.
 
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bonzombiekitty said:
Latest batch from Maricopa County of ~13000 votes, AZ only gave Trump 53.4% of the vote. He needed >60% to maintain a realistic pace to win AZ with the remaining votes. He now needs >70% of the remaining votes with the bulk of them being in counties that are bluer than Maricopa.

Absent something very very strange, he's run out of gas in AZ.
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11675 difference now for Biden. Not sure where 13K comes from.I don't think it changes your conclusion though.

ETA: And the AZ attorney general, in an interview with Neil Cavuto on the Fox Business News channel, also dismissed conspiracy theories and complaints by Trump lawyers and supporters.
 
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acbytesla said:
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Do you have a cite? Cook Political doesn't show that yet ...or Trump's supposed 73 million. They show him at 72 million 378 thousand.
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So it should have been 74 million then?

(I'm using a special Trump-style arithmetic)
 
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