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I fully admit I'm concerned that Trump and the GOP have begun a coup de etat.

That said, the press conference President Elect Joe Biden just held makes me feel so much more at ease. Nice to see a steady hand on the tiller.


https://youtu.be/qTBO43ND-2o
 
Huh. So Oregon is one big voting fraud, eh?

Apparently. We've been voting exclusively by mail since 1998 with virtually no incidents of fraud.

Oregon has mailed out millions of ballots over the past three decades, with about a dozen cases of actual fraud. Most problems were unintentional errors involving signing the wrong mailing envelope or assuming that a voter could sign the mailing envelope for a family member.
 
Well, we aren't one of them.

I told the guy my name, he looked it up, gave me a form to sign, and sent me down the line to get a ballot.

I tried to show him my voter registration card, but he wasn't interested.

Yep, same here. They looked up my name and had me sign a tablet with a stylus. I joked, after signing, "Hey, that's better than my usual pen signature". They laughed, handed me my ballot and shoved me in a booth, no IDs.
 
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I fully admit I'm concerned that Trump and the GOP have begun a coup de etat.

That said, the press conference President Elect Joe Biden just held makes me feel so much more at ease. Nice to see a steady hand on the tiller.


https://youtu.be/qTBO43ND-2o
And, I suspect that Biden's team is putting nothing past the current "Administration," and is ready for the worst. If it comes to it, I think Trump would be physically removed from the White House by 1:00 pm or so on Jan. 20, if not before noon, via the Secret Service or other similar law enforcement. I don't think the military will support the coup, either.
 
What's going on here?

White House tells federal agencies to proceed with plans for Trump’s February budget in latest sign...
“They’re pretending nothing happened,” one administration official involved in the federal budget process said.
washingtonpost.com


Someone on another forum said that it's normal for an outgoing President to put together a budget, which is then modified by the incoming President. President Obama created one before he left office.
I don't know if that's what this is referring to though.
 
acbytesla;13289984[B said:
]I fully admit I'm concerned that Trump and the GOP have begun a coup de etat.[/B]

That said, the press conference President Elect Joe Biden just held makes me feel so much more at ease. Nice to see a steady hand on the tiller.


https://youtu.be/qTBO43ND-2o

THen prepare yourself: buy a good rifle and learn how to use it.
 
Reports that the reason the SOP is supporting Trump is not so kmuch they expect him to win, but they want him to fire up voters in Georgia in the senate run offs.
 
Someone on another forum said that it's normal for an outgoing President to put together a budget, which is then modified by the incoming President. President Obama created one before he left office.
I don't know if that's what this is referring to though.

Yes it is. Budgets drawn up by the President at any time isn't worth the paper they are printed on. Congress writes the budget. But since it must be signed by POTUS or passed with a 2/3rds majority so wheeling and dealing is still required.
 
I fully admit I'm concerned that Trump and the GOP have begun a coup de etat.

That said, the press conference President Elect Joe Biden just held makes me feel so much more at ease. Nice to see a steady hand on the tiller.
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An ex-FBI executive now commenting on MSNBC says we are now in what amounts to a hostage situation, with Trump barricaded in the White House, and Biden has adopted the same calm, reassuring tone used by hostage negotiators: "Everything's OK, I understand how you feel, let's work this out," etc. At the same time they're positioning the SWAT team.
 
We're watching Trump continue to be irrational, with the collusion and support of the leaders of the GOP. And at great cost to the welfare and future of the country.

I guess that's a difference - I don't see there being any cost other than the space you give it in your head. All of Trump's bitching and posturing will, at best, introduce some delay. It's a distraction and a waste of time. But it has no material impact on the welfare of the country, nor does it have any affect on the future of the country. It's mostly annoying and embarrassing.
 
Officials worry that Trump, facing a billion dollars in loans coming due, might negotiate with his knowledge of the nation's deepest secrets.
Not only does Trump have a history of disclosures, he checks the boxes of a classic counterintelligence risk: He is deeply in debt and angry at the U.S. government, particularly what he describes as the “deep state” conspiracy that he believes tried to stop him from winning the White House in 2016 and what he falsely claims is an illegal effort to rob him of reelection.

“Anyone who is disgruntled, dissatisfied or aggrieved is a risk of disclosing classified information, whether as a current or former officeholder. Trump certainly fits that profile,” said David Priess, a former CIA officer and author of “The President’s Book of Secrets,” a history of the top-secret intelligence briefings that presidents and their staff receive while in office.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9c853e-229e-11eb-952e-0c475972cfc0_story.html
 
Trump Tweets

Ballot Corruption will be exposed tonight at 9:00pmE on @SeanHannity on @FoxNews!
 
BREAKING: Postal worker admits fabricating allegations of ballot tampering, officials say

Postal worker admits fabricating allegations of ballot tampering, officials say
A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities recanted to U.S. Postal Service investigators.
washingtonpost.com
 
The Republican Party are going all in! Either they stage an all out coup or they disgrace themselves for generations to come.
This is madness.
 
I guess that's a difference - I don't see there being any cost other than the space you give it in your head. All of Trump's bitching and posturing will, at best, introduce some delay. It's a distraction and a waste of time. But it has no material impact on the welfare of the country, nor does it have any affect on the future of the country. It's mostly annoying and embarrassing.

As I recall that was the scenario layout sometime ago. Delay certification until after the deadline, then the legislatures get to choose electors favorable to Trump.
 
BREAKING: Postal worker admits fabricating allegations of ballot tampering, officials say

Postal worker admits fabricating allegations of ballot tampering, officials say
A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities recanted to U.S. Postal Service investigators.
washingtonpost.com


From the Washington Post Article:
Richard Hopkins’ claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Department of Justice calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.

But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to the sources who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House oversight committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”

Hopkins did not respond to messages seeking comment.

The reversal comes as Trump has refused to concede to President-Elect Joe Biden (D), citing unproven allegations about widespread voter fraud in an attempt to swing the results in his favor. Republicans held up Hopkins’ claims as among the most credible because he signed an affidavit swearing that he overheard a supervisor instructing colleagues to backdate ballots mailed after Nov. 3.

The Trump campaign provided that affidavit to Graham, who in turn asked the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation to launch an investigation.

The Trump campaign also cited reports of the allegation in a federal lawsuit filed Monday against Pennsylvania election officials that seeks to prevent them from certifying the states’ election results.

The Trump campaign, the Department of Justice and Graham did not immediately respond to requests for comment Tuesday.

The Erie postmaster, Rob Weisenbach, called the allegations “100% false” in a Facebook post and said they were made “by an employee that was recently disciplined multiple times.”

“The Erie Post Office did not back date any ballots,” Weisenbach wrote.

The Postal Service Inspector General’s Office informed members of Congress in a briefing on Tuesday that Hopkins had recanted his allegations, according to a Congressional aide. The investigators first interviewed Hopkins on Friday, the aide said.

Hopkins’ allegations, without his name, were first aired last week by Project Veritas, an organization that uses deceptive tactics to expose what it says is bias and corruption in the mainstream media. Hopkins agreed to attach his name to the allegations late last week. He was instantly celebrated by Trump supporters.
 
The Republican Party are going all in! Either they stage an all out coup or they disgrace themselves for generations to come.
This is madness.

Disgrace, madness. Just another day for the GOP.

There's no doubt that they all know that Trump can't win, so they're also faithless, dishonest, sleazy, unprincipled, self-serving... but most of all cowardly, because they know Trump can lash out at them.
 
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