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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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Paul2 said:
Handpicking the electors, not auditing the election, is perhaps the only way the Leg might insert themselves, but the SCOTUS in the past has ruled that a Leg. can only determine how electors are chosen by passing a law, which means the Governor has to sign it. Also, doing so after an election is over, for that election, is sketchy.

This is the only place at which my paranoia comes back, as this SCOTUS is not that SCOTUS of the past.
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Also, more quick reading. With Clinton it was people wanting Trump electors to defect to Clinton.
 
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@FoxNews, @QuinnipiacPoll, ABC/WaPo, NBC/WSJ were so inaccurate with their polls on me, that it really is tampering with an Election. They were so far off in their polling, and in their attempt to suppress - that they should be called out for Election Interference...

...ABC/WaPo had me down 17 points in Wisconsin, the day before the election, and I WON! In Iowa, the polls had us 4 points down, and I won by 8.2%! Fox News and Quinnipiac were wrong on everything...

...The worst polling ever, and then they’ll be back in four years to do it again. This is much more then voter and campaign finance suppression!
 
Paul2 said:
selecting electors is different significantly than investigations. The Leg can investigate all they want but it changes nothing about the power and schedule for how an election is audited and certified. Unless they go contrary to past SCOTUS and hand pick the electors.
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Like you said, not the same supreme court, so who knows.
 
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The @US_FDA and the Democrats didn’t want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later – As I’ve said all along!
 
Pennsylvania
99 % reporting
Joe Biden. 49.8% 3,365,798
Donald Trump. 49.1% 3,320,459
 
acbytesla said:
What 100K disputed ballots? I've read only about a few thousand that have postmarks on or before election day and received a day or two later.
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Sorry. That was an earlier story about naked ballots.

These postmarked ballots are not in the total, correct?
 
BobTheCoward said:
Sorry. That was an earlier story about naked ballots.

These postmarked ballots are not in the total, correct?
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I think they are. But they must be separated. In other words, the court reserves the right to revoke them and readjust the count. The judge sort of punted.
 
SezMe said:
Well, that one is easy: Wisconsin has same day registration so comparing votes to already-registered is invalid.

I suspect the rest have a similar, easy to put together explanation. To say your claims are backed by evidence lacks merit.
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In fact, it was 2018 registrations vs 2020 votes, I believe.
 
acbytesla said:
I think they are. But they must be separated. In other words, the court reserves the right to revoke them and readjust the count. The judge sort of punted.
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My understanding is that the ballots in question in PA are separate, shrink-wrapped, and uncounted. I heard this several times from officials through the course of the counting.
 
eerok said:
My understanding is that the ballots in question in PA are separate, shrink-wrapped, and uncounted. I heard this several times from officials through the course of the counting.
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I believe they have been counted, but that number has not been included in Biden's (or Trump's) tally yet. I'm seeing 3,000 to 4,000 but they are not in the released counts.
 
wareyin said:
I believe they have been counted, but that number has not been included in Biden's (or Trump's) tally yet. I'm seeing 3,000 to 4,000 but they are not in the released counts.
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My info is from a few days ago, so indeed it could be stale. They were still shrink-wrapped then.

ETA: I don't think these ballots are very interesting in any case. There's not many, and they're almost certainly valid.
 
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I'm not convinced Trump is seriously still trying to "win". It looks like what he'd be doing if it were another of his scams: pretend to need to do a bunch of lawsuits, raise money to pay for them because he's not actually the mountain of money he's supposed to be, keep the money. The main reason to doubt this is the reports that people in the White House have been describing him as reacting like his denial is real and they can't get him to acknowledge reality. I suppose it could be both: he thinks he has a real case and he (or someone else working for him) is just taking advantage of the situation anyway.
 
varwoche said:
All readers have to go by are the words you write.

Do you take those things into mind when you proclaim his good intentions? A simple yes/no will suffice.
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I don't agree with everything Emily's Cat writes, but I have never presumed she's a Trump supporter.

Indeed, nothing that she said in the post you replied to constituted support of Trump. She said that Trump doesn't aim to be a dictator. That's hardly praise, regardless of whether you agree with her or not. (I tend to think that Trump would be thrilled to have the dictatorial powers he surely deserves, as the most successful leader the world has ever known.)
 
Delvo said:
I'm not convinced Trump is seriously still trying to "win". It looks like what he'd be doing if it were another of his scams: pretend to need to do a bunch of lawsuits, raise money to pay for them because he's not actually the mountain of money he's supposed to be, keep the money. The main reason to doubt this is the reports that people in the White House have been describing him as reacting like his denial is real and they can't get him to acknowledge reality. I suppose it could be both: he thinks he has a real case and he (or someone else working for him) is just taking advantage of the situation anyway.
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There's little doubt that he's a narcissist and not very tightly pegged to reality. If he were smart or even shrewd in the ordinary way, he wouldn't be Trump. I think he simply can't accept that he lost, and since BS is his superpower, that's what he's going with.
 
eerok said:
My understanding is that the ballots in question in PA are separate, shrink-wrapped, and uncounted. I heard this several times from officials through the course of the counting.
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I saw a report that the judge allowed them to be counted. But I may be wrong.
 
eerok said:
My info is from a few days ago, so indeed it could be stale. They were still shrink-wrapped then.

ETA: I don't think these ballots are very interesting in any case. There's not many, and they're almost certainly valid.
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Agreed that they are almost certainly valid but not enough to affect the outcome.

I haven't seen the "shrink-wrapped" bit, but that's a good and easy way to keep them separate from the rest but together. It's probably true. I was just going by the "uncounted" bit, but I realize now you could have meant "not included in the tally" by that. I've had too many arguments lately with Trump supporters who all think that we have no idea how many there are but they're enough to overturn PA anyway. I start getting kneejerk responses to certain words, sorry!
 
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