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2020 Presidential Election part 2

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Bubba said:
And you dont see that the MSM served as democrat activists who demonized Trump, and blatantly supported the DNC.??
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As you've poked at recently, the relatively few owners of far too much of the MSM is dangerous - but you're letting a focus on that cloud your objectivity, by the look of it, and not actually looking at the issue in full.

Trump and his Administration were and are horrendously bad, in ways that were it a Democrat being that bad, the Democrat would have been impeached and removed with strong support from Democrats quite quickly. And yes, with the MSM ripping into that Democrat and their Administration. Don't believe me? Try taking an objective look at the actual evidence. If a Republican and Democrat both do the same bad thing, the Democrat will nearly always be criticized immensely more in the MSM. Democrats are held to much higher standards by the MSM than Republicans, as a general rule - and the actual left wing in the party tends to get quietly sabotaged by the MSM, to put it nicely. This might seem a little counter-intuitive to you at first, but there's a simple truth related to that. The only force in American politics that's actually serious about pushing to reduce corporate power and monopolistic control is the actual left, which, realistically, means progressives, democratic socialists, and the like. Given that said MSM is largely owned by corporations, that's not actually surprising, of course. Compare that to the right-wing, which has very consistently worked to increase corporate power and enable exploitation. Right wing propaganda may rail against the relatively few owners of much of the MSM, but it's overwhelmingly because of right-wing political meddling that the problem exists in the first place.
 
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acbytesla said:
No, that's unfair. It certainly was a lot of people's motivation. But my guess is the vast majority of people who voted for Trump did it for the team. This really is a tribal thing. They voted for Trump because their neighbors voted for him. The congregations they belong to had vocal Trump supporters. Etc, etc, etc.

I studied Hitler a lot. Mostly to understand how such an awful person could garner such support. Hitler wasn't particularly smart either. But he understood power and was bold. People liked his take charge approach. And also like Trump he demonized everyone and anyone who would have the temerity of disagreeing with him on even the most insignificant. Trump's chant of "Fake News" is simply a carbon copy of "Lugenpresse". Goebbels literally wrote the book on deceiving the public that every dictator seems to use.

The difference is that Trump doesn't have any ideological bent other than himself. I'm still afraid of what Trump will do in the next two months. Can he rally his supporters to wage war against all of our civil institutions. I doubt it. But I'll only feel safe when he's gone.
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Normally, that would be Godwinning the thread. In Trumps case it appears to be entirely justified.

Eerily similar.
 
Vixen said:
Boris Johnson was a bit slow to offer his congratulations and when he did it was a bit muted and on a sombre black background. That was NOT what he wanted or thought could happen.
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I'm sure Justin Trudeau could give him a few pointers on what to do when the US election throws you a curveball.

Of course, JT's curveball came from an MLB pitcher, not a Little Leaguer, but the principle is the same.


Fast Eddie B said:
But we can hope the two pending Senate runoff races may go blue as well. I doubt it, but I also doubted any Biden chance in Georgia at all, so maybe this new groundswell of Democratic enthusiasm will have “legs”, so to speak.
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Someone should point out to them that two Republican Senators gives them nothing more than a veto over legislation. Without control of the House and Presidency, no GOP plans will advance, at all.

With two Democrat Senators though, things can get done - and they'll be motivated to reward Georgia for making that possible. And those Senators will know they are on a knife's edge, so won't likely support anything too "radical leftist", so the GOP might actually get some of what it wants.

If they stick with "all or nothing", they'll get nothing. Let's hope they finally realize that compromising at least gets them something, even if it's not everything.
 
Trump Tweets

“We should look at the votes. We’re just beginning the tabulation stage. We should look at these allegations. We’re seeing a number of affidavits that there has been voter fraud. We have a history in this country of election problems. In Pennsylvania you had an order by a...

....Supreme Court Justice to compel them to separate ballots that were received after the legislative deadline. It required the intervention of Justice Alito. That’s a large group of ballots. When you talk about systemic problems, it’s about...



....how these ballots were authenticated, because if there’s a problem in the system about authentication, that would seriously affect the ENTIRE ELECTION - And what concerns me is that we had over a hundred million mail-in ballot in cites like Philladelphia...

...and Detroit with a long series of election problems (to put it mildly).” @JonathanTurley

“We believe these people are thieves. The big city machines are corrupt. This was a stolen election. Best pollster in Britain wrote this morning that this clearly was a stolen election, that it’s impossible to imagine that Biden outran Obama in some of these states.

....Where it mattered, they stole what they had to steal. @newtgingrich
 
Mitt Romney on Trump claiming without evidence that the election was stolen from him:
"You're not gonna change the nature of President Trump in these last days, apparently, of his presidency. He is who he is. And he has a relatively relaxed relationship with the truth."
 
Sean Hannity tweeted

@seanhannity
The presidency is chosen by electors from all 50 states, not news organizations riven with bias
 
Mitt Romney on Trump claiming without evidence that the election was stolen from him:
"You're not gonna change the nature of President Trump in these last days, apparently, of his presidency. He is who he is. And he has a relatively relaxed relationship with the truth."
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Probably a bad call to have voted in his favor 82.1% of the ******* time then wasn't Mitt?
 
Newt Gingrich on Fox calls Joe Biden's election a "corrupt, stolen election" that was "financed by people like George Soros"
 
Oh God. The "Evil Jew" thing is going to go into overtime since Kamala Harris's husband is a Jewish Lawyer isn't it? I hadn't even thought of that.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Oh God. The "Evil Jew" thing is going to go into overtime since Kamala Harris's husband is a Jewish Lawyer isn't it? I hadn't even thought of that.
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To all appearances, Kushner sabotaged the Trump campaign. He should be investigated.


Seriously, Kushner emails should definitely be investigated.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Sean Hannity tweeted

@seanhannity
The presidency is chosen by electors from all 50 states, not news organizations riven with bias
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Someone should remind Hannity that he works for one of those news organizations (Fox News actually called NV and AZ for Biden *well before* NBC/MSNBC did).
 
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