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2020 Presidential Election part 2

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dirtywick said:
Only up 200K in PA. Pretty soon Biden will probably agree to end the counting and call it
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He can't "agree to end the counting". It's an election. Votes get counted. It's not up to the candidates to decide.


What we usually call "calling it" is when the networks announce that they think they know who won, but each state actually has a process where they take these reported results and certify them. That's usually a few days after the election.
 
Meadmaker said:
He can't "agree to end the counting". It's an election. Votes get counted. It's not up to the candidates to decide.


What we usually call "calling it" is when the networks announce that they think they know who won, but each state actually has a process where they take these reported results and certify them. That's usually a few days after the election.
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Yeah uh thanks
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Demands Arise for PA Attorney General to ‘Step Aside‘ https://breitbart.com/politics/2020...ep-aside-hes-trying-steal-pennsylvania-trump/ via
@BreitbartNews
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"Demands Arise." Something I have noticed: Manipulative language often relies on passive construction. Someone can write the headline without saying who is making the demands. I could click on the link to find out, but I'm too fried from the past 24 hours of tension to cope with Breitbart.

Trump accuses Dems of stealing PA which means - Trump did his damndest to steal PA. Trying to track my ballot, I initially got a "not registered" result from the county search thingy. Using a slightly different format on another website, I got "ballot received and counted." That involved finding out my Voter ID. In all I probably ended up using at least 4 different websites. How hard can it be to hack a government website? If the "not registered" result had prevailed as my vote was tabulated, could it have been thrown out? County election security is *probably* good enough, but I don't have the technical ability to judge that. Throwing a wrench into the works doesn't have to be foolproof, it just has to sow confusion.

I really wondered if things would be more secure using paper ballots universally. No touchscreens, punch holes or hanging chads. Good things I checked instructions; my first instinct was to use a No. 2 pencil (a problem because most of my pencils are mechanical). Nope, use blue or black ink.

I'm good with stopping the count as soon as Biden gets to 270.
 
Checkmite said:
The thing I look forward to the most should Biden win is that in January this forum stops becoming an archive and dissemination vector for Trump's official propaganda courtesy of Captain_Swoop.
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Meadmaker said:
He can't "agree to end the counting". It's an election. Votes get counted. It's not up to the candidates to decide.


What we usually call "calling it" is when the networks announce that they think they know who won, but each state actually has a process where they take these reported results and certify them. That's usually a few days after the election.
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Usually, it takes 2 weeks plus for each state to certify an election. That is done by the Secretary of State or Governor. But every state is different.
 
Minoosh said:
"Demands Arise." Something I have noticed: Manipulative language often relies on passive construction. Someone can write the headline without saying who is making the demands. I could click on the link to find out, but I'm too fried from the past 24 hours of tension to cope with Breitbart.

Trump accuses Dems of stealing PA which means - Trump did his damndest to steal PA. Trying to track my ballot, I initially got a "not registered" result from the county search thingy. Using a slightly different format on another website, I got "ballot received and counted." That involved finding out my Voter ID. In all I probably ended up using at least 4 different websites. How hard can it be to hack a government website? If the "not registered" result had prevailed as my vote was tabulated, could it have been thrown out? County election security is *probably* good enough, but I don't have the technical ability to judge that. Throwing a wrench into the works doesn't have to be foolproof, it just has to sow confusion.

I really wondered if things would be more secure using paper ballots universally. No touchscreens, punch holes or hanging chads. Good things I checked instructions; my first instinct was to use a No. 2 pencil (a problem because most of my pencils are mechanical). Nope, use blue or black ink.

I'm good with stopping the count as soon as Biden gets to 270.
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Trump is setting up his argument for why the Pennsylvania legislature should vote to seat his electors. I'm not too concerned. It looks like Republicans have finally figured out that they need to abandon the wounded.
 
newyorkguy said:
I read an interview with a (former) Republican Party staffer. He said one problem trump has with GOP career politicians is, trump has no friendships among them because trump never bothered to cultivate any. trump doesn't 'do' friendships. trump's former Chief of Staff, retired Marine General John Kelly, referred to "the transactional nature of every relationship" trump is involved in.
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I hope he has the same kind of relationships with his lawyers. He's filing all these lawsuits, but any of his legal minions may figure they're not going to be paid for their work. The US Senate, meanwhile, may well be pleased enough to see him go. They still have their GOP majority, their justices, their obstructive leverage. Watching the way Barr went dark during the whole laptop fiasco I wondered if all of Trump's potential allies might decide there's not much to be gained from standing by him.

alfaniner said:
Well, of course Nevada wants to delay its results. That's where all the betting is taking place! More money for the house!
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That sounds nuts, therefore strangely plausible ;)
 
Craig4 said:
Trump is setting up his argument for why the Pennsylvania legislature should vote to seat his electors. I'm not too concerned. It looks like Republicans have finally figured out that they need to abandon the wounded.
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In my state the Republican legislature would get slaughtered if they tried this trick.

Re the highlighted: God I hope so. I'm really not seeing much incentive for the mainstream GOP to play along with Trump's antics. I hope Team Biden pulls off a few insurance runs in the final innings - 270 is a pretty nervous-making number.
 
newyorkguy said:
I read an interview with a (former) Republican Party staffer. He said one problem trump has with GOP career politicians is, trump has no friendships among them because trump never bothered to cultivate any. trump doesn't 'do' friendships. trump's former Chief of Staff, retired Marine General John Kelly, referred to "the transactional nature of every relationship" trump is involved in.
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Trump has never been able to hide his personality disorders. To have a friend, one must value someone else; to be a narcissist, one doesn't understand what that means.
 
eerok said:
Trump has never been able to hide his personality disorders. To have a friend, one must value someone else; to be a narcissist, one doesn't understand what that means.
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I read something like that about him long ago. The writer said that he had no friends, only people who pretended to be his friend in the hope of getting something from him, and that many of them actually hated his guts.
 
PA seems to be 187K difference now, with 89% counted.

Doesn't seem like Biden is catching up fast enough.
 
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