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2020 Presidential Election part 2

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You have to remember that they’re not having trouble with the volume of ballots in the smaller R counties. It’s all heavy D areas. I’d imagine Biden is feeling good right now.
 
A Trump supporter commented elsewhere:

"Considering Trump ran the 'worst campaign ever' according to Frank Luntz, made a ton of unforced errors, had a bad first debate and blew $700 Million on hookers and coke, had the entire MSM against him, did a terrible job attacking Joe Biden and didn't even get the Hunter scandal out in the way he should have, had the demographics completely against him...

This is still a pretty amazing result for Trumpism."
 
gregthehammer said:
Trump is such a crybaby whiner. how can anyone respect that?
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I know. He and the whole scenario are grotesque.
But, his supporters will respect it because they too are whiners, with the whole world eternally conspiring against them.

Fake edit: pox on them, en masse.
 
Craig4 said:
Okay, just come on back from the ledge there. Pennsylvania hasn't counted the mail in votes and Atlanta hasn't reported.
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:confused: Biden needs to get 57% of the mail-ins in PA to win it. And Biden needs to get 66.7% of Atlanta to win it. Neither is out of the realm of possible, but kind of tight to pull off. Seems like the odds are in Trump's favor in both of those states, looking at it mathematically. I won't be shocked if Biden manages it in at least one of them, but I also wouldn't take any bets.
 
Right, off to bed now. Wanted to go earlier, but wasn't tired, so I'd just be lying awake for hours. Will make an attempt now.

When I wake up, I expect Biden to have reached 270 electors, at least (knock on wood). Then we can move on to the fun lawsuit part of this debacle.
 
Emily's Cat said:
:confused: Biden needs to get 57% of the mail-ins in PA to win it. And Biden needs to get 66.7% of Atlanta to win it. Neither is out of the realm of possible, but kind of tight to pull off. Seems like the odds are in Trump's favor in both of those states, looking at it mathematically. I won't be shocked if Biden manages it in at least one of them, but I also wouldn't take any bets.
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If he gets either of them it secures it for him, no? Assuming MI and Arizona, of course.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Trump may have gotten one of Maine's EC votes, some are calling it, some aren't. Probably won't matter with the rest of the states in play.
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As long as Biden gets one vote out of NE, that one vote in Maine won't matter.
 
Emily's Cat said:
:confused: Biden needs to get 57% of the mail-ins in PA to win it. And Biden needs to get 66.7% of Atlanta to win it. Neither is out of the realm of possible, but kind of tight to pull off. Seems like the odds are in Trump's favor in both of those states, looking at it mathematically. I won't be shocked if Biden manages it in at least one of them, but I also wouldn't take any bets.
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If he only gets 57% of the mail ins he’d be underperforming there relative to the mail in results in other states.
 
Distracted1 said:
If he gets either of them it secures it for him, no? Assuming MI and Arizona, of course.
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Assuming WI is over, and for Biden, then 237 is as it stands. AZ makes it 248 + MI makes it 264. So yes either GA or PA would put Biden "over the top".

Edit: its basically over for Trump if Biden takes PA. He'd need to take every single other state still up for grabs except NV.
 
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Cain said:
A Trump supporter commented elsewhere:

"Considering Trump ran the 'worst campaign ever' according to Frank Luntz, made a ton of unforced errors, had a bad first debate and blew $700 Million on hookers and coke, had the entire MSM against him, did a terrible job attacking Joe Biden and didn't even get the Hunter scandal out in the way he should have, had the demographics completely against him...

This is still a pretty amazing result for Trumpism."
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I have to agree. It is stunningly disappointing that an useless, bigoted windbag like Trump can be this close to winning a second term. It's almost like half the US is pushing Trump on the rest of the country because it's funny. Whether the other half, or even Trump particularly, want it.
 
Craig4 said:
Okay, just come on back from the ledge there. Pennsylvania hasn't counted the mail in votes and Atlanta hasn't reported.
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I made a $20 bet with a customer that Pennsylvania would be one of the last five States to report a final count, only because I have found them to be uniquely challenged by things like counting and addition.
 
lobosrul5 said:
Assuming WI is over, and for Biden, then 237 is as it stands. AZ makes it 248 + MI makes it 264. So yes either GA or PA would put Biden "over the top".
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Or Nevada.

Nevada is too close for my liking, but still expected as a Biden win.
 
Nevada is worrying for Biden. The culinary union endorsed Trump which could be a pretty big deal.
 
Meadmaker said:
As long as Biden gets one vote out of NE, that one vote in Maine won't matter.
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It could in a way. I figured a scenario where its 270-268 for Biden over Trump without ME-2. Biden at 270 w000 the whole things over? Might want to read up on faithless electors and what happens if no one gets to 270. ME-2 would at least allow for ONE faithless elector.


Meadmaker said:
Or Nevada.

Nevada is too close for my liking, but still expected as a Biden win.
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Yup, thats part of my "nightmare scenario". 1 frickin faithless elector and the presidency gets selected by a majority each states delegate (senate + house).
 
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lobosrul5 said:
It could in a way. I figured a scenario where its 270-268 for Biden over Trump without ME-2. Biden at 270 w000 the whole things over? Might want to read up on faithless electors and what happens if no one gets to 270. ME-2 would at least allow for ONE faithless elector.




Yup, thats part of my "nightmare scenario". 1 frickin faithless elector and the presidency gets selected by a majority each states delegate (senate + house).
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I think that there is no chance of a faithless elector defecting from the Biden camp. At least, it's so unlikely I wouldn't worry about it.

There is one other scenario that ends up with a 269-269 tie, even with 1 NE vote for Biden and one ME for Trump. That would be Biden getting, Arizona, Nevada, and North Carolina, while Trump gets Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

I just don't think that's very likely. I think Michigan is firm for Biden.
 
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