Bill Barr and his October Surprise

TahiniBinShawarma said:
This is a pitiful attempt to distract that a poster here attributed a position to me that I obviously never made. There are pages and pages of a discussion about the claims regarding the laptop.
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You didn't make up the lie.
You shared it.
You spread it.
You perpetrated it.
And you attacked people who doubted it.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
Now link to me defending the claim that there is child porn on the laptop. Since your last claim has been debunked.
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Nope. The thread is here for all to read.

Honestly, I expected you would take the tack of huffily declaring it was just sexually inappropriate pictures, not porn! I didn't expect you to just deny it all.

So, guess I will ask: when you jumped in here to laugh at everyone doubting this story and report how Giuliani had dropped off the laptop with the Delaware PD for child porn, did you believe he was lying or telling the truth? When you argued that the FBI having this info for 10 months without doing anything didn't mean anything it could still be true, were you defending the claim and did you still believe the claim at that time? Do you still believe it?
 
JoeMorgue said:
You didn't make up the lie.
You shared it.
You spread it.
You perpetrated it.
And you attacked people who doubted it.
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Link to me attacking someone who doubted there was child porn on the laptop, or defending the claim there was child porn on it. The post speaks for itself. "Giuliani goes there," the claim, "Don't shoot the messenger."
 
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TahiniBinShawarma said:
Link to me attacking someone who doubted there was child porn on the laptop.
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No. You'll just deny it like you deny everything. The thread is here for everyone to read, I'm not playing the "Show me where I said that!" game with you.

And you notice neither is anyone else.

We all know this game.

And I notice you didn't deny knowingly spreading falsehoods, you just latched onto the one statement you thought you could stall the discussion out with by giving people a fetch quest to complete. Very transparent.
 
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wareyin said:
Nope. The thread is here for all to read.

Honestly, I expected you would take the tack of huffily declaring it was just sexually inappropriate pictures, not porn! I didn't expect you to just deny it all.

So, guess I will ask: when you jumped in here to laugh at everyone doubting this story and report how Giuliani had dropped off the laptop with the Delaware PD for child porn, did you believe he was lying or telling the truth? When you argued that the FBI having this info for 10 months without doing anything didn't mean anything it could still be true, were you defending the claim and did you still believe the claim at that time? Do you still believe it?
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I notice there is no link in there which shows me attacking someone doubting there is child porn on the laptop. And there is no link in there of me defending the claim of child porn on the laptop either. Back up your claim.
 
JoeMorgue said:
No. You'll just deny it like you deny everything. The thread is here for everyone to read, I'm not playing the "Show me where I said that!" game with you.

And you notice neither is anyone else.

We all know this game.

And I notice you didn't deny knowingly spreading falsehoods, you just latched onto the one statement you thought you could stall the discussion out with by giving people a fetch quest to complete. Very transparent.
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No, because you can't, because it never happened.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
I notice there is no link in there which shows me attacking someone doubting there is child porn on the laptop. And there is no link in there of me defending the claim of child porn on the laptop either. Back up your claim.
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Okay here's a link. It's in the thread called "Bill Barr and his October Surprise" on the International Skeptic Forums message board. You can find it with Google.

Stop trying to get out of being arguing into a corner by giving us fetch quests to complete that we both know you'll just deny when we complete anyway.
 
JoeMorgue said:
No. You'll just deny it like you deny everything. The thread is here for everyone to read, I'm not playing the "Show me where I said that!" game with you.

And you notice neither is anyone else.

We all know this game.

And I notice you didn't deny knowingly spreading falsehoods, you just latched onto the one statement you thought you could stall the discussion out with by giving people a fetch quest to complete. Very transparent.
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"Neither is anyone else" because it never happened. If it had, you would discredit me unequivocally. That you can't, only discredits you and others who made the claim.
 
So yeah this is a nothingburger. And it's not working. Trump wanted this to be his "Comey Letter" for this election and it frizzled out at best, backfired at worst.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Okay here's a link. It's in the thread called "Bill Barr and his October Surprise" on the International Skeptic Forums message board. You can find it with Google.

Stop trying to get out of being arguing into a corner by giving us fetch quests to complete that we both know you'll just deny when we complete anyway.
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Haha cop out. You can't cite, and you can't quote it, because it never happened. You aren't helping yourself by going down this road. You're losing credibility by the post.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I'm comfortable with anyone reading this thread and judging my credibility.
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Same here, they all see that I never attacked anyone for doubting the claim of child porn on the laptop, and they can see I never supported the claim. They also see the ones here claiming the opposite and that you can't cite to support your claim.
 
Dr. Keith said:
Do you actually read that as an admission by Hunter of bad things rather than Hunter calling out someone making up BS about him? Weird.
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The gatewaypundit posted pictures this morning of Hunter standing in a doorway while wearing nothing but a robe and the robe is wide open exposing his genitalia . In the room behind him is a person who has been blurred so as they are not recognizable and who is claimed to be a minor. So, yeah, I think I will remain skeptical about Hunter's claims of someone making up BS for the time being.
 
Bogative said:
The gatewaypundit posted pictures this morning of Hunter standing in a doorway while wearing nothing but a robe and the robe is wide open exposing his genitalia . In the room behind him is a person who has been blurred so as they are not recognizable and who is claimed to be a minor. So, yeah, I think I will remain skeptical about Hunter's claims of someone making up BS for the time being.
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That must have been very exciting for you.

I can't imagine there are very many pictures of drug addicts being stupid in this world. It is really amazing that "the gatewaypundit" was able to find one. Next they'll have a rare photo of a kitty being adorable.

All sarcasm aside, I will not vote for Hunter or the kitty.
 
Bogative said:
The gatewaypundit posted pictures this morning of Hunter standing in a doorway while wearing nothing but a robe and the robe is wide open exposing his genitalia . In the room behind him is a person who has been blurred so as they are not recognizable and who is claimed to be a minor. So, yeah, I think I will remain skeptical about Hunter's claims of someone making up BS for the time being.
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Yup, so ... still not voting for hunter.
 
wareyin said:
So, guess I will ask: when you jumped in here to laugh at everyone doubting this story and report how Giuliani had dropped off the laptop with the Delaware PD for child porn, did you believe he was lying or telling the truth? When you argued that the FBI having this info for 10 months without doing anything didn't mean anything it could still be true, were you defending the claim and did you still believe the claim at that time? Do you still believe it?
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1. He did drop the laptop off

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-hunter-biden-laptop-authorities/6005040002/

2. How do you know the FBI isn't doing anything?

3. Do I still believe what?

I notice you still won't back up the claim that I attacked posters here for doubting or rejecting the claim of child porn on the laptop)hard drive), or of me supporting or believing the claim of child porn on the laptop. Also, because you have not backed up your claim(because you can't) shouldn't you retract the claim? Or are you comfortable being openly dishonest?
 
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Bogative said:
The gatewaypundit posted pictures this morning of Hunter standing in a doorway while wearing nothing but a robe and the robe is wide open exposing his genitalia . In the room behind him is a person who has been blurred so as they are not recognizable and who is claimed to be a minor.
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"Is claimed" by whom?

From Gateway Pundit:''

In another text message from Hunter to a family friend, Hunter shares that his mother, Jill Biden,
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Jill Biden is not Hunter's mother. Kind of a big honking error IMO.

I've lost track, how did these texts come to light?
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
Edit, and a quick google shows that the tapes were uploaded in China to a website owned by Guo Wengui and Steve Bannon. If the tape isn't a fake then I'm literally a monkey's uncle.
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Tapes. By my count there are six videos where Hunter's face is clearly visible and one where only his body can be seen. However, the person in the video is wearing the same bracelets, ring and necklaces that Hunter has been on video and in photos wearing also. I guess you could claim fakery on that as well but it would be awful strange for the Russians to hire a body double to fake another porn video of Hunter because the first 6 weren't enough?

There are also dozens of photos now. You could claim that a handful of them are fake because the header data says they were taken in the District of Columbia, Maryland and Delaware. Everybody knows that Hunter lives in California so for some reason it's impossible for him to be anywhere other than California.
 
I shall now point out the error in your thinking.
Dr. Keith said:
Why would anyone trust Tucker when Fox says you can not trust Tucker?

U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
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