Ed Justice Barrett

[Ziggurat]

Isn't a scheme that admits even the tiniest potential for such a skewing (where less than 1/4 of the vote count can prevail) automatically flawed

Popular vote allows for the possibility of such a skewing too, if you want to get right down to it. If only 1% of the population votes, then that 1% determines the election.

"The system ain't bad because it's not yet got as bad as it could get" is no damned good argument.

The arguments in favor of the electoral college are long standing, you don't need me to tell them to you if you're actually curious (not a given). And the fundamental complaint here is really that Trump got elected. The gnashing of teeth about the electoral college all went on vacation when Obama was elected. So no, I don't really take them very seriously.

 

[Ziggurat]

In Nov 2016, was a good outcome obtained where clearly maximal fairness was not a factor?

In other words, were maximal fairness to have been in effect then, might a better (if not good, then gooder) outcome have resulted?

You're basically asking if my preferred candidate would have won had we not used the electoral college. I don't expect my opinion on that question to carry much weight here.

Would the federalist structure of government have been better protected?

Oh, hells no.

 

[Ziggurat]

Why not just fire justices? The president appoints and the senate confirms all kinds of ppl. There’s nothing I see in the constitution that says the president can’t fire justices like he can any other appointment.

 

[Stacyhs]

Well, let's see what kind of damage she'll do.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Well, let's see what kind of damage she'll do.

The biggest damage she will do is to the Religious Right - but that's the long term.
In the short term, she will probably completely discredit the Supreme Court.
Which is probably a good thing.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Popular vote allows for the possibility of such a skewing too, if you want to get right down to it. If only 1% of the population votes, then that 1% determines the election.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Melania, who was reportedly still experiencing coronavirus symptoms last week, is not wearing a mask at ACB's White House swearing in ceremony

The First Lady tested negative on the 14th of October. You may wish to consider other news sources now and then.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

But this thread isn't about the Electoral College, it's about the illegitemate approval of a new Justice of the Supreme Court.
Wyoming population per Senator: 284,150
California population per Senator: 18, 670, 995

That's a ratio of about 65:1 for confirming a Justice.
The Holy Founding Fathers NEVER forsaw such a discrepancy.

How is Justice Barrett's approval illegitimate? Citation please.


I think the Founding Fathers did well seeing how Wyoming has 1 Representative in the House and California has 53 or so. Representation by population is well provided as per the Constitution. Didn't you get this stuff in Elementary?

 

[The Don]

The First Lady tested negative on the 14th of October.

And ?

That isn't incompatible with Melania later experiencing symptoms. Reasons include (but are not limited to):

• False negative on the test (which is why repeated negative tests are required)
• Reinfection - rare but not unknown
• Experiencing Coronavirus symptoms but not having Covid-19
• The White House lying about the negative test

 

[Craig4]

At least Clarence Thomas will no longer be known as the stupid one. He wasn't looking to good at the swearing-in ceremony either, probably has a few underlying conditions. He might be providing Biden a chance to put a neutralizing vote on the court before too long.

 

[Craig4]

The First Lady tested negative on the 14th of October. You may wish to consider other news sources now and then.

Cases of long haulers are well documented. Many patients deal with symptoms due to damage caused by the disease well after they test negative. Sadly, that thing she mated with does not appear to be one of them.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

You say that as if that's the dichotomy. But it isn't. A "fair" voting system can still produce accumulation of power by a few.

And as we can see in the USA today, an unfair and undemocratic one will.

That seems irrelevant, since minority rule outcomes aren't necessarily good outcomes either.

I would say that minority rule outcomes will always be bad. Whereas fair outcomes tend to be good, not all are, but the most will be.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

I didn't say you had to accept anything. You're free to believe whatever you want. Judging by your posts, that's exactly what you do.

Of course what Ziggurat is actually saying here is that we have to throw out the base stuff from which we underpin everything else. He's arguing the equivalent of, in mathematics, the axiom of x = x.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Retweeted

Trump Retweeted

Sebastian Gorka DrG
@SebGorka
POETIC JUSTICE
@JoeBiden was the committee chairman who launched the “high-tech lynching” against then Judge Clarence Thomas.
Guess who President @realDonaldTrump asked to swear in new SCOTUS Justice, Amy Coney Barrett tonight?
You got it. #SweetRevenge

Dan Bongino
@dbongino
CLARENCE THOMAS IS A NATIONAL HERO!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Biden’s Handler’s want to expand the Court. This would be very bad for the USA. On top of that they don’t want to provide a list of who would be chosen for the Court. MUST HAVE A LIST OF THESE RADICAL LEFT JUDGES!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

I agree!
Quote Tweet

Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
ACB sworn in by Clarence Thomas. Awesome.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Retweets

Gregg Jarrett
@GreggJarrett
JOE ‘BLOW’ BIDEN: Head of Biden transition team endorses proposal to blow up Supreme Court
In an effort to counteract the confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett, Fix the Court – a leftist advocacy group – is pushing to enforce an 18-year hard term limit for Supreme Court justices. And the head...
thegreggjarrett.com

 

[Andy_Ross]

McConnell tweeted

@senatemajldr
The Senate just confirmed Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court of the United States.
One of the most impressive nominees for public office in a generation will serve for life on our highest court.

 

[Craig4]

It's funny how the Trumptrash are taking victory laps over something most of the country didn't want them to do.

 

[Tero]

How soon till we get abortion tourism? You know, girl gets a Greyhound bus ticket from Iowa to Illinois, with Super 8 motel in the package. Abortion free at Planned Parenthood.