2020 Presidential Election

[Skeptic Ginger]

Did he make fun of you and tell you how much he didn't want to be there if it wasn't for that damn Corona Virus!!

https://youtu.be/mlv36Yxy3Wk?t=64

Trump's developing his rationalization for losing the coming election: China sabotaged him.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Trump's developing his rationalization for losing the coming election: China sabotaged him.

big mean China, puny Donald never had a chance.
We kinda have to given him now the 2nd term as a consolation prize.

 

[Aridas]

It would be a bummer if there was a serious October Surprise in that laptop, but I just can't see it happening. Whatever it is Trump will talk it up, but he is dreaming if he thinks it will measure up to Hillary's emails.

Instead, we get stuff like Rudy getting caught in a rather compromising state by Sacha Baron Cohen?

Do we know there is actually a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden?

I'm willing to give them the benefit of that doubt that laptops exist and they likely have a few in their possession.

Much past that, well...

DNI Ratcliffe just announced that Iran is trying to undermine confidence in our election by spreading the false claim that fraudulent ballots can be cast from foreign countries.
Does he realize that the president has been saying the exact same thing?
If it's a disinformation campaign when Iran does it, what is it when the president does it?

Ratcliffe is a Trump loyalist, put there specifically to try to advance Trump's desires.

In a related matter, Ratcliffe claiming that the threats to Democrats in Florida (vote Trump or very bad things will happen to you - sent by "Proud Boys") originated from Iran and were done to hurt Trump, without evidence or explanation, should also be treated as little more than an extension of the Trump campaign.

 

[Stacyhs]

Wow. Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele did not vote for Trump in 2016 and is endorsing Joe Biden. Think about that. The former RNC Chairman is endorsing a Democrat over Trump.

 

[Pixel42]

Just watched the Obama speech, great stuff.

If I had to choose the one bit that I hope gets quoted and communicated the most, it would be his list of Trump appointees who are currently in charge of the most important parts of government and are actively working to undermine the very purposes of their offices.

 

[Ambrosia]

Here's the problem:

A Trump voter answers your questions: "Yes:, "Yes", and "Hell, yes".

No that's accounted for in the framing of the question.

If Trump had improved the lives of lots of Americans in tangible ways then lots of them would vote to re-elect him.

He hasn't done enough for enough people, so he's going to lose. He has in fact managed things so badly that he's over ridden all of the benefits of being an incumbent (people generally vote for the devil they know rather than an unknown quantity) and all of the election shenanigans the GOP is notorious for. Even with all that help his polling numbers are awful.

Trump voters might very well answer yes yes and hell yes! but there are 4 of them for every 6 Biden voters and the chances that changes are falling by the day.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump tweets

I am not just running against Biden, I am running against the Corrupt Media, the Big Tech Giants, and the Washington Swamp. It is time to send a message to these wealthy liberal hypocrites by delivering Joe Biden a THUNDERING defeat on November 3rd! #MAGA http://Vote.DonaldJTrump.com

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Ratcliffe: Iran and Russia Have Obtained Voter Info, Iran Has Tried to ‘Damage President Trump‘ https://breitbart.com/clips/2020/10...nfo-iran-has-tried-to-damage-president-trump/ via @BreitbartNews
During a press conference on Wednesday, Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe stated that Iran and Russia have obtained voter registration breitbart.com

I did more in 47 months than Biden did in 47 years. A VOTE for Republicans is a VOTE for SAFE communities, great JOBS, and a limitless FUTURE for ALL AMERICANS! http://Vote.DonaldJTrump.com

For years you had a President who apologized for America—now you have a President who is standing up for America, and standing up for YOU. So get your friends, get your family, get your neighbors and co-workers, and GET OUT AND VOTE. Together, we are going to #MAGA!

If I do not sound like a typical Washington politician, it’s because I’m NOT a politician. If I do not always play by the rules of the Washington Establishment, it’s because I was elected to fight for YOU, harder than anyone ever has before!

The first thing Washington Democrats will do if Biden is elected is pack the Supreme Court with radical left judges who will eliminate your 2nd Amendment.

The Radical Biden-Harris Agenda is projected to slash the typical American’s income by $6,500 per year. They will raise TAXES by $4 TRILLION DOLLARS – triggering a mass exodus of jobs out of America and into foreign countries.

 

[quadraginta]

The last time I checked (~6 months ago ??) 22 of the top 25 talkers on AM radio 22 were conservative, some, like Billy Williams, *extremely* so. No one may dominate like Rush but don't for a minute think that a void will be created when he goes to Hell.

One of the few things I can see about fundi Christianity that is attractive is the idea that there is a Hell for people like Rust Limpdong to go to.

 

[Armitage72]

Trump Tweets

A VOTE for Republicans is a VOTE for SAFE communities, great JOBS, and a limitless FUTURE for ALL AMERICANS!*

*Americans in this situation being defined as people who voted Republican. Other voters are not true Americans and are on their own.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

The GREAT Bobby Bowden, one of the best coaches EVER in College Football, on his full recovery from Covid-19 “....America is the greatest country this side of heaven. I’ve had a chance to get a lot of wins in my life, but I really wanted to win this one because I wanted....

....to be around to vote for President Trump.” Over 300 wins and 2 National Championships. Thank you to Florida State for giving us Bobby Bowden!

 

[Delvo]

If Trump had improved the lives of lots of Americans in tangible ways then lots of them would vote to re-elect him.

He hasn't done enough for enough people, so he's going to lose.

Strangely, there was a survey a few days ago in which most people apparently claimed that they are better off now than four years ago. Everything else about what's happening in the country says that simply is not true and the people aren't voting like it's true, but it's what that survey found.

* * *

Also within the last few days, at one of Trump's worship services, he took some time to gloat to the crowd about being able to call various business executives and ask for money, to which they not only always say yes but also offer more. Of course, it's not true, given the fact that he's out of money and it's another one of his "sir" stories which are always false, but it's what he wanted them to think... and it's the same kind of crowd that would have previously chanted "drain the swamp". This might be a sign that he hates the job so much he's literally trying to lose. He's never had so many people against him in his life and doesn't like it.

 

[gypsyjackson]

Strangely, there was a survey a few days ago in which most people apparently claimed that they are better off now than four years ago. Everything else about what's happening in the country says that simply is not true and the people aren't voting like it's true, but it's what that survey found.

The report I read said that more people thought they were personally better off than 4 years ago by 17 percentage points, but that more people thought the country was worse off than 4 years ago by 16 percentage points.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

@FoxNews Polls are totally FAKE, just like they were in 2016. I am leading in all of the states mentioned, which you will soon see. I thought Fox was getting rid of its pollster. Sadly, it never happened!

 

[Armitage72]

CNN has an opinion piece positing that if Trump loses, his self-preservation instinct will overpower his ego and he'll cut and run, just like he did with all of his failed businesses.

I simply assume, as you should, that if he loses next month, the President will put his own interests ahead of the country's, as he always does. And that may actually guarantee a peaceful transition of power.

He has survived multiple bankruptcies of his companies, massive legal judgments and a business instinct that can best be described as "How to lose money without even trying." But somehow, every time, after every colossal failure, he has always been able to repackage himself and sell the next version of Donald Trump to the public. Real estate developer. Casino mogul. Reality TV star. President of the United States. This pattern has been noted by the President's biographer Michael D'Antonio, who says that Trump in times of peril has always found a way to protect the thing he values most -- his self-image. "It's not success as others see it, or achievement as others define it," D'Antonio told me recently. "What matters to him is the story he can tell himself, or sell to himself, in order to feel like he prevailed. That instinct is one of many that allows him second, third and fourth chances at escape and reinvention."

He owes hundreds of millions of dollars, according to The New York Times. He will need some flexibility from his creditors and a new business venture to make that money quickly. Paid speeches will help, but won't generate a billion dollars. ... There is not a bank in the world whose shareholders would allow any renegotiation of credit terms with a man who's promoting violence on the American streets and creating international instability in the capital markets. No one is going to bankroll the Trump media network if our cities are burning and Trump is lighting the match.

 

[Mumbles]

Wow. Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele did not vote for Trump in 2016 and is endorsing Joe Biden. Think about that. The former RNC Chairman is endorsing a Democrat over Trump.

Given the way the rest of the GOP repeatedly spat in his face since he became RNC chair back in 2009, I'd say he doesn't owe any of them a thing.

 

[timhau]

I disagree with one point:

There is not a bank in the world whose shareholders would allow any renegotiation of credit terms with a man who's promoting violence on the American streets and creating international instability in the capital markets. No one is going to bankroll the Trump media network if our cities are burning and Trump is lighting the match.

Not a bank in the Western world. There are several banks controlled by Putin's tame oligarchs, and the Kremlin has a controlling interst in Sberbank, Russia's biggest bank by far.

 

[JoeMorgue]

I'm not sure where the comparison is supposed to be. Trump "cut and run" from all his previous failures by cutting ties with them; bankruptcy, divorce, etc.

I'm not sure what the equivalent is supposed to be here for his Presidency.

Unless we're talking about Trump fleeing the country and pulling a Snowden in some overseas embassy he can't just pull his nominal "LOL let's just forget I ever did that" routine with the Presidency.

 

[slyjoe]

I'm not sure where the comparison is supposed to be. Trump "cut and run" from all his previous failures by cutting ties with them; bankruptcy, divorce, etc.

I'm not sure what the equivalent is supposed to be here for his Presidency.

Unless we're talking about Trump fleeing the country and pulling a Snowden in some overseas embassy he can't just pull his nominal "LOL let's just forget I ever did that" routine with the Presidency.

That worked with Snowden because Snowden didn't owe someone close to a billion dollars.

From Die Hard:

"When you steal $600, you can just disappear. When you steal $600 million, they will find you unless they think you're already dead."

 

[JoeMorgue]

My point is the article suggest that when given the choice Trump will chose to save his ego without offering any mechanics as to how he's supposed to do that or even what "save his ego" really means.

Trump looks down the barrel and sees there's no way he can win the Presidency and just gives up to save face. Okay fine maybe but then what? That won't do anything about the legal repercussions he's facing. It won't do anything against the massive amount of dirt that you know is going to come out after he leaves office.